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He should’ve pulled a Time Chasers and switched to a bicycle to pursue Kevin Bacon

They should have made a Timechasers trilogy.

The second film would deal with him returning to a dark present (as opposed to dark future) where Castleton no longer exists and people keep voting for Donald Trump.

The third film would go to the Middle Ages and would be kind of like Army of Darkness, but with Gencorp employees instead of Deadites.
 
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Some thoughts on the Road Warrior:

I was surprised about how much this is essentially a "stripped-down" version of the later films (except for the chronology). The scale seems a little small but of course George Miller had much more to work with later. I can also see how many post-apocalyptic tropes originated here. The opening and ending chase scenses are really good; they're very kinetic and make you feel the motion. That's part of what I consider to be the hallmark of a good action scene, when you feel it, even though it's an illusion.

This movie has much more Bruce Spence than I expected. I'm used to him having small but memorable parts in the third films of trilogies:

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I guess those are his real teeth? The prequels are flawed but his SW character is in the proud Star Wars tradition on a guy who looks gross or scary and ends up being helpful/heroic. I like the creative take on the Mouth of Sauron but I agree that the Aragorn of the books would never have responded that way.

I don't understand what timeline is supposed to be (apparently nobody does) but Furiosa and Fury Road both seem to be set much further in the future. The societies have developed much further into this feudal structure, with all these weird rites and rituals. Lord Humongous here just comes off as the leader of a powerful gang; but it doesn't seem like he has a kingdom or lordship, despite calling himself a lord.
 

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Some thoughts on the Road Warrior:

I was surprised about how much this is essentially a "stripped-down" version of the later films (except for the chronology). The scale seems a little small but of course George Miller had much more to work with later. I can also see how many post-apocalyptic tropes originated here. The opening and ending chase scenses are really good; they're very kinetic and make you feel the motion. That's part of what I consider to be the hallmark of a good action scene, when you feel it, even though it's an illusion.

This movie has much more Bruce Spence than I expected. I'm used to him having small but memorable parts in the third films of trilogies:

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I guess those are his real teeth? The prequels are flawed but his SW character is in the proud Star Wars tradition on a guy who looks gross or scary and ends up being helpful/heroic. I like the creative take on the Mouth of Sauron but I agree that the Aragorn of the books would never have responded that way.

I don't understand what timeline is supposed to be (apparently nobody does) but Furiosa and Fury Road both seem to be set much further in the future. The societies have developed much further into this feudal structure, with all these weird rites and rituals. Lord Humongous here just comes off as the leader of a powerful gang; but it doesn't seem like he has a kingdom or lordship, despite calling himself a lord.
The timeline of mad max is confusing because in the first film, there are remnants of civilization, yet in subsequent films, people have vague or second hand recollections of the pre apocalypse.

One fan theory is that The Max of Fury Road is possibly a descendant or different person from the Max of the Gibson trilogy.

Personally I prefer to view the films as stories told by unreliable narrators, stories that have taken on mythical qualities. Mad Max 1 is fairly grounded because it’s the one film seen largely from Max’s point of view. The Road Warrior is the recollections of the Feral Kid told years later when he’s an old man. Thunderdome is the story as seen and told by the children. Fury Road is seen from the point of view of Furiosa and the wives. So it makes sense that the continuity and timeline doesn’t seem wholly consistent from film to film, why Max varies in appearance, why he has an interceptor sometimes and other times he has a camel drawn carriage, then is back to an interceptor at the beginning of Fury Road. Of course the real world explanation is Miller just never anticipated making that many sequels and never thought too hard on the timeline. Each one is essentially a soft reboot and update on its predecessor but that adds to the charm because each film has a unique feel and palette. They all work well as standalone films in a way

A possible explanation for why Max seems to better remember civilization than certain other characters could be that he was living in a remnant nation state that still had law and order while much of the rest of the word had already descended into a state of lawlessness and pseudo feudalism by the point of the first film. So that could explain why other characters seem more “tribal” or primitive
 
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I like the theory that the first three mad max movies are three decades of the deisel punk apocalypse. The first movie, the event has happened, but civilization is still more or less in tact, it's only breaking down in the wilderness between big cities and small towns.

Road warrior is ten to fifteen years later. The civilization is collapsed, the cities and towns are falling into ruin, only isolated hamlets of civilization exist, like the oil refinery, Raiders are the norm.

Beyond Thunder dome is ten to fifteen years after that. There are entire generations who have known no other world than the post apocalyptic one, raiders have begun to "civilize" into places like Barter Town.

I figure fury road takes place between the first and second movies, maybe between the second and third. Alternatively, I picture "Mad Max" might be a nick name of the time, similar to the expression Every Man Jack, because he's a loner and prefers to keep that way anyone who does so becomes a Mad Max.
 

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Speaking of post apocalyptic movies, I watched The Postman last night. It’s delightfully cheesy, a little sappy and over sentimental at times, but entertaining and well made

Tom Petty has the most random ass cameo ever, playing (I think?) himself
 

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Finally watched The Animal Kingdom (2023), a french film about humans mutating into animals over a period of time. I really like this film. An American film might have just made another cheap horror flick, here it's more about how society treats people undergoing these slow changes that they don't know how to revert, the impact on relationships, all encapsulated by the central story of a man and son trying to find their mom, who escaped in a wreck along with some other mutates, into the forests.

It's a little underwritten but the performances are just tremendous and full of emotion, the story is very moving. It's got allegories of coming-of-age in it, but doesn't really lose its way or feel redundant.

And just because the film isn't focused on shock horror, there's still a lot of great effects (practical, mostly, although there are moments where CGI was necessary -- but you can't really tell). It's unsettling to see people who are partway through their own mutation, especially after they might not be able to communicate anymore but still remember who they had been. There's an occasional gaff -- there's no way a man with wings instead of arms could fly due to the weight and improper balancing -- but hey I'm willing to cut some slack for poetic effect.

 

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I miss fight scenes like this. Maybe Wu Assassins will scratch my itch. I also love the Merovingian's haughtiness; remember all the theories that he was a previous incarnation of Neo? "You see, he is only a man..."

 

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I miss fight scenes like this. Maybe Wu Assassins will scratch my itch. I also love the Merovingian's haughtiness; remember all the theories that he was a previous incarnation of Neo? "You see, he is only a man..."

There are some great set pieces in Matrix Reloaded, but I think that one is my favorite. Others are bigger and more explosive, but this one feels so well choreographed and uses a variety of weapons in their own unique styles -- and it's got the hints of Neo's decline when he has to block that sword with his hand and starts to bleed. "You see? He's just a man," says the Merovingian.
 

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Kind of amusing, but I will forever be skeptical of MCU now...


EDIT: John Walker sounds like a whiny little biatch.
 
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Wicked (part 1) was pretty great. I've seen the show twice, and I think they managed to capture the core emotions pretty well and even take advantage of the film medium in some respects (because you can do face close-ups and linger on certain moments what you can't really do in live theater). Pretty uniformly the critic and audience reviews were high, and the few critic complaints I heard seemed to be more about the critic's preference than something actually longer. I wonder if some ever saw the show or were just really familiar with the soundtrack, as there are bits woven in during the actual performance that will briefly pause a song. I also did not feel like there was padding in the film, like maybe about 3 minutes of content that felt it could just be cut, but it seemed to breathe pretty well and gave additional time to emotionally fill out a scene.

Not just adaptations but actual shows will just have some variance in them based on what the actors themselves want to do, how they read their lines, how the singers approach their songs, and what the director wants to accentuate.

My actual criticisms?
1. Oz actually looked kind of bleached/faded in color much more than I expected; I really expected a lot more saturation, and I think maybe the film would have benefited from that. In general, actually, the film didn't quite "pop" as much across the board as I expected.
2. As is typical for theater-to-film adaptations, some of the cast was adequate without being stellar in their vocal work. The most notable was Michelle Yeoh, who more spoke than sang her lines (Madame Morrible has a stanza in Making Good / The Wizard and I) -- but it's freaking Michelle Yeoh and she has presence in her role otherwise, so .... I also do not consider her as big a secondary character like Fiyero, and he was great.

So basically not much complaint.

The film captures the core emotional energy/synergy among the cast and the characters. It frames the main plotlines adequately and highlights why Elphaba is concerned about the animals and then why she rebels against the wizard. This version made Fiyero actually INTERESTING as a person and I actually felt I understand his choices much better than watching the shows or listening to the music. Just like the theater version, it captures the nuanced dynamic between Elphaba and Galinda -- how they start as natural annoyances and even foes to each other, but there's a tipping point and their feelings change. Yet even then, they still have separate goals and capabilities, resulting in them each going their own separate ways (without rancor) at the end of this portion; they are such good friends or at least trust each other's intentions (even when they screw up) that they know they have each other's backs, even when that varies a bit.

The film gets right the two most important turning points of this chapter, and maybe a third as well.
1. The ballroom scene where Galinda sets Elphaba up to be made fun of, then has a change of heart as Elphaba rises to the taunt.
2. The Defying Gravity sequence that ends Part 1.
3. The seeds of Elphaba and Fiyero's relationship -- Erivo and Bailey really draw out the connection here, in their scenes alone.

Erivo of course nails just about everything and makes it her own and you can see definite parallels between her life journey and Elphaba's.
Grande is much better than people expected from her, and honestly this might be her acting career peak ever (she's decent), so I hope people stop bashing her.

There was also kind of a bit of celebrity casting here for a minute or two that I wasn't aware of, but people will probably recognize:
 

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Why are Timon and Pumba even in this Lion King prequel? This is what I call prequelitis.
If Disney crashed and burned completely tomorrow, I don't think I'd care anymore.

Oh, yeah. I saw the Snow White trailer at "Wicked." I have a feeling that film is gonna suck.
 
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If Disney crashed and burned completely tomorrow, I don't think I'd care anymore.

Oh, yeah. I saw the Snow White trailer at "Wicked." I have a feeling that film is gonna suck.
I'm only a quarter of the way into the trailer, and it looks terrible.
 
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