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Tomb1

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The Strays on Netflix... I liked it. i did not realize the genre of this movie until the end but it worked
 

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For the SAG: EEAAO seems to be the big winner tonight, plus Brendan Fraser. Even Jamie Lee Curtis pulled in Best Supporting Actress.

I'm kinda expecting EEAAO for Oscar Best Picture, Fraser for Best Actor, but.... still not sure between Yeoh and Blanchett for Best Actress. Honestly, both are great; their roles are just so different, it's difficult to compare. I think it might be Yeoh's to lose, though -- she's riding on a lot of goodwill right now.
 

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I don't understand this trilogy.
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James Cameron is certainly no stranger to the Academy Awards. The highest-grossing movie Titanic won a slew at the 70th Academy Awards, landing wins for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Film Editing. Not to mention, Avatar got those same nominations twelve years later but lost Best Picture to The Hurt Locker. Now, in an interview with Time, the Oscar-winning director shares his honest thoughts on how he’s been feeling about the Academy’s choices for Best Picture winners lately.

How do you compare Tár to Avatar? How do you judge which one is better? It’s ludicrous on its face. I think it’s a bit elitist in a way that at least they shouldn’t be mystified as their audience numbers go down. It’s been a long time since a crowd pleaser won for Best Picture. From experience, it’s better to win than not win. It’s better to be nominated than not nominated, no matter how much you want intellectually to argue the whole thing away.

Uh, dude? How about just last year, with CODA? It certainly wasn't close to the best-made picture released.

It's not like there wasn't other stuff Avatar would have lost to at the Oscars that year either (which included Inglorious Basterds, Up, and Up in the Air as fellow noms).

He got All The Money, that's a pretty sweet consolation prize.
 
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I got up to the dance sequence in Spielberg's version but will wait to comment. It's interesting to see the "modernized" version, which has its pro's and con's.
The scene at the dance was a lot cooler in the original movie. I liked the abstract shapes and colors. The new version didn't really have anything like that which made it special. I just felt like the old movie popped more.

I watched it with my aunts who grew up in a working class neighborhood, and they thought the gangs seemed more authentic in the original film, also. For example they pointed out that they would have carried cigarettes in their pockets or something like that, and it does seem weird to me that teenage gangs in the 60s aren't shown smoking.
 

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Diamonds are Forever is an odd film in the Bond series. It doesn't really slot well with the other Conneries; tonally, it fits better with Live and Let Die and The Man With The Golden Gun (also odd films that don't really slot well with other Roger Moores). All three are equally dark and absurd. The plots involve mundane (by Bond standards) plots and the films are very much of their time. While humor is found in all of the Bonds, it tends to be a bit darker and more tongue-in-cheek in these films--Bond is witty as ever, but also verges on sadism and comes across more as true antihero than in any of the other films, in my opinion. He usually displays at least some sense of morality in the films, but here, he can barely be bothered to care and almost seems to take a pleasure in others' pain.

I like how these three films in particular juxtapose really silly, absurd elements (i.e. a Louisiana sheriff on vacation in Southeast Asia, moon buggy chases, obvious villain disguises) with dark and gritty stories about hitmen, diamond smugglers, drug lords, etc. Aside from the Craigs, Daltons and early Conneries, they feel closest to the tone of the Fleming novels. Hamilton wasn't the greatest of the Bond directors, but he brought a unique style to the series that was never replicated, although John Glen's films came close at times (difference being that Glen's films were more grounded and Bond usually shows more empathy and concern for others' suffering). Even Hamilton's Goldfinger feels apart from the other Connery Bonds, although tonally it doesn't fit as well with these three.
 
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Roger Moore just comes across as a straight-up bully and pig in his first couple of Bond films. Feels like he was just trying to out-Connery Connery. Not a good look for him. It took him a bit to really own the role.
 

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Well, I'm not beyond blaming the directing for some of the problem. So much of the early film at least is inert, and only some of the battle scenes at the end are compelling or interesting.

But it's also kind of a conceptual issue with the writing, it's all kind of one-note, cliche, and uncompelling -- like, why was this what we got? I will agree with him that the stuff with Kang was the best part of the film, but that could also be due to Majors' acting. So I think he got part of it right, but he should be looking at it as a chance to improve.

 

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For some reason, I was reminded of this scene:

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when I saw this article today:


yeah, my mind is broken from all my cinema years
 

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Not really sure how this will go, vote-wise.

The issue is that I think Brendan Fraser has a lot of the goodwill and people just want to see him win.

However, Oscar voters have obsessively been enamoured with actors who perfectly emulate prior celebrities, in these kinds of biopics -- as if acting is just about how closely you can emulate another person's behaviors on screen. I think it's an impressive skill but doesn't necessarily mean an award performance.
 

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Not really sure how this will go, vote-wise.

The issue is that I think Brendan Fraser has a lot of the goodwill and people just want to see him win.

However, Oscar voters have obsessively been enamoured with actors who perfectly emulate prior celebrities, in these kinds of biopics -- as if acting is just about how closely you can emulate another person's behaviors on screen. I think it's an impressive skill but doesn't necessarily mean an award performance.
it also sort of tries to force there into being no more timeless classics, just varying degrees of mimicry.
 

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Finished Babylon today (streaming free on Paramount +).

It's an odd counterpoint to La La Land for me -- a film where I felt like the top talent was not vocally up to the task and the movie got a little old, but I really liked the last 20 minutes. Here, everyone was really up to the task and I really enjoyed the individual arcs and vignettes / set pieces... then felt like the film dropped the ball in the last 3-5 minutes trying to justify itself or be sentimental.

At three hours, the film is too long, but I'm not sure yet what I'd cut. I get that the whole thing is about excess and glam, so... I can endure the long length since the individual parts are pretty great, but I couldn't watch it all in one sitting.

The opening setup + party takes literally 30-35 minutes, and it's almost like a movie in itself. It's fabulous, jaw-dropping, incredible, raunchy -- and the artistic promise of that first party carries on through the film, I think the music and set production are the best parts of this film (which ain't surprising, when I see what nominations it has). it was as entrancing as any of the musical numbers from Whiplash. (Side note that Chazelle knows how to film music numbers and bands.) But it's like a camera whirling through the party capturing all the spectacle and craziness and insanity and plenty. It's just nuts.

The film itself is really about the claw to the top in silent pics, the wobbly transition to sound pics, and how people's stars rise and fall based on that. Realistically from an actor's POV, it's a huge change. Physical actors were in; now you need something more, and you need to be able to vocally act in a way that is not grating.

As I said, the thing that rang false to me is the last few minutes with Manny's retrospective (and future projection into) film. I would have really liked it if the film had ended more quietly after the black and white images of his memories were superimposed across Singing in the Rain. The film felt like it needed more of a bittersweet ending, not a happy ending tacked onto a film that might have been somewhat unfocused but certainly was focused on justifying film. I think that was a strong juxtaposition -- the sanitized image audiences see that sometimes is sentimental typically has a lurid underbelly where some people's lives are left in ruin, and that's just how it is. And it would have dovetailed nicely with Jean Smart's speech to Pitt about how everyone dies but you're immortalized forever in film.... your life sucks so that people who never knew you can experience something grand. (Smart is great btw -- she's so effortless in embodying her character, even if she only has a minor role.)

So I'm kinda like "WOW WHAT A FILM" and kinda like "DAMN WAY TO DROP THAT BALL" + "DAMN THAT WAS LONG, i want to watch it again but don't feel like sitting through 3 hours"

The individual scenes in this film are pretty stellar. The film again is also really really funny. I was laughing a ton throughout.

Thematically:
 
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I'm curious if we are going to see a glut of anti-Nazi movies, given the rise of neo-fascists and fash adjacent groups worldwide. Not that killing Nazis is ever unpopular in movies (or anywhere else) but movies about the last days of WWII tend have Americans or US military as the protagonist. Not Finnish farmers.

 
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