Random political thought thread.

[The Cat]

 

[Burning Paradigm]

The horseshoe theory isn't completely invalid or bunk; it just doesn't hold up much in the US because this country's definition of the "far-left" (at least, by those who use the term frequently) is usually quite far from being actually far-left.

 

[The Cat]

relatable.

 

[Lark]

relatable.

Relatable? Maybe, sure, although I'm sure there are oligarchs in the non-english speaking world who ought to concern people at least as much as these guys.

Bet no one can name them, Bezos, Gates, Zuckerburg? The real movers and shakers are people who havent heard of.

Nor are you ever likely to.

 

[The Cat]

Relatable? Maybe, sure, although I'm sure there are oligarchs in the non-english speaking world who ought to concern people at least as much as these guys.

Bet no one can name them, Bezos, Gates, Zuckerburg? The real movers and shakers are people who havent heard of.

Nor are you ever likely to.

Did you watch the video out of curiosity? What I meant by relatable is the guy's introduction to anarchism is relatable to me.

 

[The Cat]

 

[tony_goth]

Politics is like finance, management and gaming. You may use intuition, but are required to think rationally. You break emotionally, you die.

 

[Jaguar]

If that quote from 'Crazy Emily' is accurate, you people should start considering legal options.

 

[Lark]

Did you watch the video out of curiosity? What I meant by relatable is the guy's introduction to anarchism is relatable to me.

No, not out of curiosity, anarchism is an appealing ideology in many respects.

I just find much of the time of agitators, whatever their ideas may be, are focused on the obvious or public, all too public oligarchs and no one ever tries to see beyond that.

Overall attacking oligarchs is often a net gain for other equally unsavory types, that's before you consider the national or geo-political angles too, not all oligarchs are equally menacing or criminal, although the "lesser evil" argument isnt perfect I guess.

 

[The Cat]

No, not out of curiosity, anarchism is an appealing ideology in many respects.

I just find much of the time of agitators, whatever their ideas may be, are focused on the obvious or public, all too public oligarchs and no one ever tries to see beyond that.

Overall attacking oligarchs is often a net gain for other equally unsavory types, that's before you consider the national or geo-political angles too, not all oligarchs are equally menacing or criminal, although the "lesser evil" argument isnt perfect I guess.

Hmm...

 

[Lark]

I wonder what most people think is the best way to support good mental health is it through keyworkers, professionals and talk therapies or is it informal resources and community links?

I, of course, dont think this is an either/or deal or dichotomy per se but most politicians, some people in general too, think that the former services require funding and the later do not (or are the cheaper alternative).

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I, of course, dont think this is an either/or deal or dichotomy per se but most politicians, some people in general too, think that the former services require funding and the later do not (or are the cheaper alternative).

Not in the U.S., they don't.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Fuck, Rahm Emanuel who apparently Biden is looking at for his candidate cut mental health services in Chicago.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Fuck, Rahm Emanuel who apparently Biden is looking at for his candidate cut mental health services in Chicago.

Actually I find it kinda funny how people fail to realize that basically the biggest winner of 2020 is GOP establishment.


Senate will almost surely be theirs, even if odds were officially against them.
House is full of their talking points and it is so narrowly blue that it is totally flipable in 2022
If we ignore a few social issues the new president is basically a typical republican from 25 years ago.
Supreme court is evidently theirs.
While on local levels they did pretty well and therefore they will get to define many maps and local issues.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Actually I find it kinda funny how people fail to realize that basically the biggest winner of 2020 is GOP establishment.


Senate will almost surely be theirs, even if odds were officially against them.
House is full of their talking points and it is so narrowly blue that it is totally flipable in 2022
If we ignore a few social issues the new president is basically a typical republican from 25 years ago.
Supreme court is evidently theirs. es" While on local levels they did pretty well and therefore they will get to define many maps and local issues.

Rahm Emanuel is a Democrat. But I agree that it would be a mistake to view this moment as a victory for leftism or progressivism; I'd argue that any hope of that ended when Biden, one of the most conservative of all the people in the large field, secured the nomination. It's a defeat of Trumpism (if not a final defeat), though, and that's something.

But centrism will not be enough to return things to normal (which was unsustainable to begin with, which was why it didn't last). It will be interesting to see what happens once this becomes clear to everyone. So much of the Democratic establishment believes it is effectively still the 1990s; it seems that they never got the memo about the "end of history" being a chimera. If you look at the beliefs of people in foreign policy circles alone, this is obvious. The failure of U.S interventions in the 21st centuries is, to them, merely a consequence of people not doing them "correctly" rather than an obvious symptom of the fact that the American empire is no longer sustainable.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Rahm Emanuel is a Democrat. But I agree that it would be a mistake to view this moment as a victory for leftism or progressivism; I'd argue that any hope of that ended when Biden, one of the most conservative of all the people in the large field, secured the nomination. It's a defeat of Trumpism (if not a final defeat), though, and that's something.

But centrism will not be enough to return things to normal (which was unsustainable to begin with, which was why it didn't last). It will be interesting to see what happens once this becomes clear to everyone. So much of the Democratic establishment believes it is effectively still the 1990s; it seems that they never got the memo about the "end of history" being a chimera. If you look at the beliefs of people in foreign policy circles alone, this is obvious. The failure of U.S interventions in the 21st centuries is, to them, merely a consequence of people not doing them "correctly" rather than an obvious symptom of the fact that the American empire is no longer sustainable.

Well, they aren't doing them correctly. You can't invade countries and then not take the effort to rebuild them and improve them. Because in that scenario you will get one endless resistance and you will be the one that will go bankrupt in the end. Since you are in a war you can't really win without some serious atrocities.


However what is unsustainable are education, healthcare, general social climate, infrastructure debts ... etc. Therefore when the system will pass the dysfunctional point of no return it will implode on itself. Especially since the most people will be already crazy at that point. What will paradoxically end the endless wars. However how the new order or orders will look like remains to be seen, the same goes for what will happen globally. Since this would create a massive power vacuum which many will try to use to their advantage.

 

[ceecee]

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Always curious why QAnon isn't wrecking motherfuckers like this.

Oh right...

 

[Jaguar]

Trump's legal adviser Jenna Ellis in 2016 called him an 'idiot' and said his supporters didn't care about 'facts or logic'

Well, at least you got something right.

 

[Maou]

The media is damage control for the 1%/deep state.

 

[Lark]

Not in the U.S., they don't.

Would that be because, like here, they think informal support or "social" solutions should/could take up the slack instead?

You know, the old "spontaneous order" which requires nothing, ever, of government, the authorities, privileged etc.