You know its going to be a bad day when you get quoted by multiple INTJs.
What I was trying to say is that traditionally our education seems to provide better foundation than general American education which is very job oriented. However once that level is done we try to specialize people as well.
I understand that; but my point was that economic realities changed the shape of higher education in The States, do you imagine that Croatia is destined for another fate? I think you mentioned in another thread a spiralling debt. Which having a look: Sweet baby Jesus; it's climbed from 30% to 90% of GDP since the recession. Higher education is always one of the first things cut in any economic downturn. While at the same time the quality and quantity of graduates is suppose to remain the same. The end result is an education based around the needs of an employer. Could you also make it a well rounded education on top? Certainly with another couple of years and the financial backing. But for cash-strapped universities and zero external incentive, without a huge overhaul of the world's education system it's unlikely to happen.
I don't hate American at all as many people do and I don't think their power is completely undeserved, however over the last 30 years they have started a number of pretty dangerous anti-intellectual trends that are now spreading across the world. With potentally very serious consequences, for them and the rest of the world. (and that is actually what I was trying to express with my post)
I also find the anti-intellectual trends worrying; but at this stage it seems to be global (Fear breeds fear scenario). I blame it more on internet enabling various cycles of stupidity.
As for hate....... to be brutally honest it does seem as though you have some deep seated anger issues with the US. I cannot think of a post you've made outside of personal ones that isn't disparaging high minded rhetoric about the foibles of The States. And surely you can't spend that much time writing those incredibly long posts of yours, without it being important on both a mental and emotional level.
Please don't feel the need to expand or explain on this. I'm commenting on it; because if you're wondering why people are potentially avoiding you, maybe they're seeing it the same way I am.
I suppose that is why they have typically run rings around us in math and science, especially theoretical fields?
Are you joking now? Because the answer to this is well known, and I'm not entirely sure I can pick up when you joke. If you're not, as a Russian guy once said to me; “There are only two kinds of secure jobs in Russia, one is working for the Government, the other is working for the Mafia; most of time you can't tell the difference.†So the answer is where else is someone with an advanced scientific degree suppose to work that has the same stability (And potentially pay.) as a government backed job?
Whereas the theoretical fields in the States; (Well I imagine you could tell me, the theoretical fields was a bit too specific) have small numbers/budgets, aren't particularly well paying and aren't nearly as glamorous as other fields and the private sector.
Yes, we have often been ahead on the technology side, slapping things together until they actually work. That is not the same as a fundamental understanding.
Okay........this just sums up the nature of human progress. Yes from my country’s perspective you're well gungho. I presume this isn't related to Russia/the rest? I mean their space program and the case of disappearing cosmonauts. The rest is just a double up.
In any case, if you look at comparisons of students across the globe, Americans are NOT at the top. Our education system is not a source of pride for us. We can stand to learn alot from other nations, including Russia, which has different strengths.
I'm finding myself confused, at what point did I say the American school system was number one? I did and do question the validity of following the educational footsteps of ex soviet/Warsaw Pact countries; as I believe most have/are changing to match that of Western Europe. And a reaction to virtual ghosts the US is doomed, doomed I tell you, and Croatia is the best! As for looking at other educational systems that's an excellent idea; Singapore, Denmark, Germany, Australia country's ideologically similar where variables can be aligned. Perhaps I'm wrong though, perhaps Russia has a lot to offer academically........ but a system for creativity and independence? Come on that concept is objectively hilarious, I refuse to believe you didn't see how ridiculous that statement was.
That was way more effort then it was worth; because you're both INTJ and a part of you will want to drag this out for the next hundred pages or so, I'm conceding defeat. Also because I'm debating people in a thread that's about the soul crushing conformity to
smile.
Also I think we all know that the OP hasn't hit his stride yet, can you imagine the thread for when he stubs his toe? It will be his Mona Lisa.
