[Te] TJs: Describe Te as You Understand It

[violet_crown]

On a related note: SJ SSBIs are due to be completed by the end of this fiscal year, so now is the time to start notifying your character references.

You guys' turn around on that always blows my mind. It's been hard to really keep track of things on the NJ side since the INTJs were able to push through replacing our standard background check process with "getting a pretty good feel for someone through mutual silent observation occasionally broken up by asking seemingly random, but actually really pointed questions that don't make sense to the other party until much, much later". I'm forgetting the acronym right now, but it's incredible what you can talk a group of ENTJs into when you tell them that you can get rid of red tape 100%.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that most of the data they're collecting is not not even going towards background checks at this point.

 

[five sounds]

Te is love I love all of the TJs in my life.

I love how thorough and detailed all of the participants in this thread have been!

I was marveling at that too! These posts are all so long lol. God bless Te. My tert Te is mad jealous.

 

[Evo]

[MENTION=14015]Urarienev[/MENTION] but why be a shit roommate? Relate it to Te if you can. I think this is one of the hard hitting subjects no one is talking about, and it needs to be addressed.

I don't do it on purpose. That may be the difference between your roomie and me.

Also what you're describing sounds like a lack of Si imo.


Si from an ENTJ is their "trickster"

“Although he is not really evil, he does the most atrocious things from sheer unconsciousness and unrelatedness.”

It's probably unconscious, because of all the focused energy put into finding closure on what is deemed to be more important than dishes....or more important than other peoples' feelings about the dishes, for that matter

 

[á´…eparted]

One of my favorite quotes about filmmaking comes from a guy who runs a vblog called Every Frame a Painting:

That's Te in a nutshell to me: an ongoing, conscious choice about what matters and what doesn't. I can't speak as much for Te-aux, but for Te-dom, when something's in the frame it has our attention. When it's not in the frame, it doesn't. The shot can be as complex in its composition as you'd have it and convey as much or as little, but once it's gone then you focus on whatever replaces it.

That quote is a very good way of describing Te, and one that does confound me (I never forget what is outside the frame, and I often feel it's more important most of the time). Does it get overwhelming if you're required to keep moving the frame from one spot to another? My guess it would be more troublesome for an ESTJ than an ENTJ, but I could be wrong. In a strange way that manner of being feels sort of... lonely. Do you experience it that way?

Mm. It's not so much about the info as the friends. Anybody who asks me what I was up to that evening, I would be honest and say that I was on a date. Maybe talk a little bit about how it went. But I wouldn't assume that anyone else would care unless it's something we'd discussed in the past, and was established as something we discuss.

It's not like after the date, I will get on my phone and inform all Column A friends in a group text BUT NEVER COLUMN B FRIENDS. I'd probably not tell anyone unless it seemed relevant at the time.

That makes sense, and is also sort of odd. I have always assumed that when people don't talk about details, that they think "well they aren't 'allowed' to know in some way, so they don't get to hear", which is the Fe mindset and that's not how it's done. I think it confused me for years, because I assumed that mindset in Te people, and if you do it looks immensely chaotic secretive and rude.

For me, I knew I wanted a career in international affairs when I was like 13-14. And from that moment, basically the singular focus of my life for roughly the next ten years was to achieve that. When I finally did and it wasn't for me, it caused a massive crisis, and I've spent the last few years experimenting to really find what I want.

This brings me to a semi-related point. I've always understood Te as a fundamentally creative function. Te to me is about building something out of nothing. It's this is what's in my heart (Fi), this is the vision I have for it (Ni), these are the resources available to me (Se) now let's assemble something that will create the reality that I want to live in.

I think that element is left out of a lot of conversations about Te, and is not always directly expressed by TJs. We do a lot of what we do because there is no greater rush for us than being able to hold something in your hand that had just been an image in your mind before. We create constantly and the focus on efficiency is almost selfish in a way, because you're trying to get to that payoff as fast as possible lol. One of the things I love most about who I am is that if I believe in something enough, I will work everyday for 20 years if that's what it takes to make it possible, because I KNOW I will make it happen. It's how I've always been and gives me a certain optimism even when pursuing something leads me through some bleak places. I just believe if I keep putting one step in front of the other I'll get there.

It sounds corny af, but I think all ETJs have a sort of closet Pollyanna streak deep down so w/e.

Hunh. I am not sure if this is an Fe thing or not (honestly because I know almost no one who approaches life plans as I do), but I have known what I wanted to since I was 10 years old. It wasn't until I was 23 that I had my first honest to god "hmm well that plan won't work". It didn't make me spaz. I just reframed my goals slightly, and have had to do so multiple times since then, and all is well. I'm concerned with how I'd feel in the career path sure, but ultimately it is a "means to and end" for me. An INTJ professors actually accidentally helped me out with it, she said "Hard, you know what makes you successful, you just don't know what makes you happy". Once I figured out the latter, it was cake. It's because of this that I have a really hard time empathizing and imagine what it's like to have a long term plan "blow up".

I like the way you describe the "rush" of holding a product in your hand. Fe-doms have that too, but it's focused elsewhere and isn't the ultimately rush. It makes completely sense though. You find the way to create and manipulate the world around you. The only thing in your way is effort. Te's pretty good at turning off to power through anything, and given you're an 8 that might even be trival in many cases. I honestly wouldn't call it selfish though. Just because you create something for yourself, doesn't mean it can't have downstream effects on others in a positive manner. It seems like then, that knowing that Te allows you to create, you can refind the goal by simply working on creating something else that harmonizes with Fi.

 

[Virtual ghost]

And what about "steamrolling" and telling people what to do ?

 

[EJCC]

And what about "steamrolling" and telling people what to do ?

Reiterating my previous statement about how no type is superior to any other type.

 

[citizen cane]

Te...


I suppose I use Te primarily to map out where I want things in my life to head in a general sense, and then to break that down into smaller more quantifiable steps. That's really what it's about for me. That said I often feel like I'm lousy at effectively utilizing it in the here and now. I can often easily map out where I want life to be in weeks, months, or years, but I'll forget housework, misplace paperwork, and be quite disorganized in general.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Reiterating my previous statement about how no type is superior to any other type.

I don't see this as a type thing that much. Over the last few years I have started to openly police my environment and I have changed so many things that were wrong (and others agree about that), therefore I feel much better just because of that. I have finally entered the phase of my life where I can more freely show power and that is really good for my emotional life. I simply demand certain level of confrontation in order to feel complete and people say that I can be stressful company at times. However I keep it at factual basis and I don't go into "You are such an idiot" zone.


(8 and 3 fix ftw I guess)

 

[Edgar]

My Te comes out when shit is getting out of hand or whenever I am talking to Te doms. The first one is stabilze the situation (e.g. I'm in a group of people that is acting lost or retarded) and the other is for the ease of communication.

I much prefer to use it for the latter.

 

[magpie]

My inferior Te comes out as the need to tell people to stop hoarding and THROW THAT SHIT AWAY.

 

[EJCC]

My inferior Te comes out as the need to tell people to stop hoarding and THROW THAT SHIT AWAY.

Legit got warm fuzzies reading this. I'm so proud.

 

[magpie]

Legit got warm fuzzies reading this. I'm so proud.

The Te doms have accepted me.

 

[Yama]

My inferior Te comes out as the need to tell people to stop hoarding and THROW THAT SHIT AWAY.

BUT HOW COULD I EVER GET RID OF TIMMY THE TIGER, THE STUFFED ANIMAL I'VE HAD SINCE I WAS 12???

 

[magpie]

BUT HOW COULD I EVER GET RID OF TIMMY THE TIGER, THE STUFFED ANIMAL I'VE HAD SINCE I WAS 12???

Oh no, now I've upset the Si doms!

 

[EJCC]

BUT HOW COULD I EVER GET RID OF TIMMY THE TIGER, THE STUFFED ANIMAL I'VE HAD SINCE I WAS 12???

 

[Yama]

Oh no, now I've upset the Si doms!

I CAN'T DO IT I CAN'T GIVE TIMMY AWAY, I CANT BELievv YOU WOULD EVEN sUGGEST

 

[neuskens]

Would you say Te is sort of a ''sensor function'', being practical, tangible, inductive and thorough while Ti is more of an ''intuitive function'', being deductive and abstract?

 

[EJCC]

Would you say Te is sort of a ''sensor function'', being practical, tangible, inductive and thorough while Ti is more of an ''intuitive function'', being deductive and abstract?

No I don't think so. I see dominant functions as representative of people's modus operandi and I wouldn't call ISTPs "abstract" at all.

Also this is mixing metaphors a bit so I see it as more confusing than anything.

 

[Virtual ghost]

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Wrong post. Nevermind.

 

[uumlau]

I just had to reply to this post with my current avatar ...