[MENTION=25622]Thrill-Ride[/MENTION]
Just going to write these thoughts as they come to me.
I think your response has confirmed what I think of your type, though again I will say I could be wrong. 9w1 at least is still clear to me, because there is a way of shutting off being affected by others when challenged. Not wanting to push it, and so instead withdrawing and stepping back, though there may be some disagreement and you do voice them. It does ring 9 with a decently strong 1 wing influence. It's not particularly strong (not core as you said yourself) but I think I see it in you.
The 6(w7) because of how you seem to question and follow my train of thought when I'm considering multiple factors and setting myself up for obection. The way you want to be intelligent and assertive. The sort of internal conflict you seem to face that seems strong but not pervasive. There is some unrest there (the wanting to scream at that situation...I get that too btw and *hugs* for that), though I think you try to be positive overall.
Going to start quoting you now.
1. What do you think your life is about? What drives you in life? This can be something like a goal or a purpose, or anything else that comes to mind.
I think I can sum it up as "Making my life worth while" Either way, Im usually trouble-shooting or fantasizing about how things can be.
Maybe to find whats "missing"..? I dont have a clear purpose
"Trouble-shooting" or fantasizing about how things can be a 6 thing, a sort of way to prepare for the future or consider all the outcomes. I do this a lot myself. Finding what's "missing" seems not to come from 4 in you, but 6 desire for clarity...for truth. The way you write the last two sentences seems to be that sort of questioning, a good estimation, but not wanting to be too sure (or in fact not being too sure of that). Might be over-analyzing that bit, I admit, but the stuff I wrote before this is valid i think.
2. Describe your relationship with your parents. Does anything stand out about the way you interacted?
Me and my dad (INFP) get along well, It's sort of like we are always teasing each other, light heartedly of course. He's also very realistic when it comes to making decisions. My mom and I get along too
but conflict always arises when she doesn't agree with me. She doesnt see logic, if it doesnt intrest her it doesnt matter. The most recent example
would be I wanted to start this acne-drug called "accutane", which has a reputation for its side effects. I sat her down and showed her all the pros and cons
and made it obvious that it could be life changing to me. She clicked off the sites I was showing her then pulled up this website with this guy ranting about
all this stuff that could NOT apply to me being on the drug, like him having having a family history of depression ect. I told her the nicest way possiable that its
that it's irrevelent to my case and does not compare to all the positive rewiews out there. She said something along the lines of "That's too bad, your not taking it.
I bursted into tears I was so mad.(I dont cry often) I couldnt believe she didnt see reason. Yet she went to my doctor for her own reasons and I was brought up. Basically they talked about my
case and she said something like "You ever hear of accutane?" and threw her a booklet. She picked me up from my friends house and handed me the booklet and told me
what the doctor told her. I wanted to scream cause everything the doctor told her, i told her prior WORD BY WORD elaborated and w/reviews included. I noticed that, that entire time I talked to her was basically
pointless cause she heard not a word I said. This is really the only trouble I run into with my mom yet it bothers me so much.
This is where I saw some of the 6 influence... I'm making an educated guess here so correct me if I'm wrong, but the feeling of being undermined and cut down like that by your mother could have been very overwhelming, especially when you did your best and tried hard to show her what you understood and she wouldn't listen to you. The undercurrent of anxiety in what you wrote made me think 6... this stress from trying but not having your efforts be recognized, and in fact thrown in your face. I see this possibly being a strong reaction to not being understood, and from 6, not 4. The 4 is reactive, but more internally so, more hidden about it.
3. What's important to you? What do you hope to avoid doing or being?
Fairness, being open to new experiences and opinions, having freedom to do as one chooses, Knowledge is power, and especially having a balance of everything.
This rings of 6 and 7. You may have thought 5, but 6 prizes knowledge deeply as well. The fairness and balance aspect seems 6, the openness to experience and freedom you want speaks of 7, and to a lesser extent 6. I also add 6 because 6 doesn't want to be trapped either... because 6 will want to determine what they want for themselves, to have that power over oneself, for others not to have the power to control them. Oh and 6 is also open to opinions because they don't want to make judgments too early.
Something that came to mind is I avoid being clingy, i cant ever see my self being dependent on someone else.
This is what I considered for self-preservation. That independence, or self-sufficiency... probably not wanting others to be dependent upon you either.
Also I never allow myself
to over induldge especially with caffiene ( I feel guilty). I feel like I get addicted to anything good then totally drop it because
I dont want to be dependent on it. Marijuana for example, If im sad I end up smoking for 3 days straight to the point im so out of it. Then I completely quit.
This wariness of dependency comes off 6. The guilt of over-indulgence comes off as superego influence. 7 would have less reservations with indulging I think, because of that fear of deprivation. In fact, they'd want more and more. But clear 7 influence.
(Anime too :<<) Usually I think what I like is not being so self aware of everything and just being able to go with the flow.
Wanting to be able to go with the flow, not being so self-aware... I can see as 6 not wanting to be so self-conscious, because that is the way the type naturally is. To not be self-governed, self-restricted. My influence from it as core 6 seems to be much stronger than yours, which is why I say this is a weak fix, though I do see it clearly enough.
4. Aside from phobias, are there any fears that characterized your childhood? Have they continued into the present day, or not, and if not, how have you dealt with them?
Nope!
haha. this comes off pretty 7, even if it's just one word. If you're wondering how I can consider 6 when you don't have clear fears, it's because 6 fear isn't as pervasive as one might expect. It's not really a conscious fear. It's a fear that sort of lingers quietly.
5 a.) How do you see yourself?
Sensitive and well, even-headed.
The even-headed thing... and what you've written about being fair. It adds up and I didn't miss that. There's a "thinking" aspect to this and again it comes off 6.
I also see two basic personallites I Have depending on circumstance, One side I see as charming/attractive, optimistic, agreeable, and quite admirable.
This seems pretty 2 overall. "Charming/attractive" is very 2. When you write about yourself, you lean toward the positive aspects, suggesting positive outlook types (2, 7, 9). There seems to be a subtle pride here... and that speaks of 2 as well. But it's honest, not aggressive or pompous. Which is why I don't see the narcissistic traits of perhaps 3 or 7.
The other side I see as assertive, intelligent, respectable. I try to have people see both sides or I feel they dont
see the "true me". For example, There was this guy I found attractive, I could tell he viewed me as being ultra-spontaineous and sort of shallow. I was uncomfortable with that so in one of the conversations I brought about the fact I was up all night doing homework for my AP and Honors classes.
He looked shocked (just as I expected!!) and he said something like "so your smart huh?" I shrugged my shoulders. He now views me as "both sides"
Wanting people to see multiple aspects of yourself is human and can come from many different places. The way you responded suggests both 2 and 6. The way you subtly challenged your friend's opinion, this awareness of how he sees you and wanting to correct it. The discomfort you felt led you to this, and that sort of push is 6. The way you did it didn't seem as impulsive or forward as I might expect of 7, either. 9 influence seemed to come into play here. Also seems like some pride there... like wanting to correct, but also not wanting to be aggressive. Being quietly pleased that you proved him wrong.
Anyways, Being confident depends on how secure I feel with myself.
7 confidence is more natural. The 7 comes more from a place of almost, "why shouldn't I be confident? I'm pretty great." That's the sort of narcissism that goes with 7. It's not always so obvious though
I dont see any major negative traits that cant be fixed besides my ADD (although im self-medicating) and having a wary self confidence.
Wary... again, 6.
b.) How do you want others to see you?
I want people to see me as well.. all of those ^!
c.) What do you dislike the most in other people?
People who lack depth, clinginess, dependent on others or let people step on them, dishonesty,
being a kiss ass, being unfair or biased, lacking tack, and self imposed ignorance.
6 and 2. Not liking others who lack "depth" can be any type. Again not liking clinginess could be 7 independence and/or self-preservation instinct. Not liking others who are dependent or let people step on them seems counterphobic 6 or 1, also possibly having a dislike of strong 9. Dishonesty can be any type. The "being a kiss ass" speaks of 6 complex with authority. Unfair/biased could be 5 or 6, but seems to be 6 for you. You're not as detached as 5. I forgot to mention that. You seem to be very present with the world, very "there." It's why I can't see any withdrawn types for you, except for some 9 influence. Self-imposed ignorance... very 6. Because of the self-awareness they have... not being able to comprehend how others don't question themselves at all, how others can ignore what is there.
Lacking tact seems pretty 2 because of the awareness they have. You seem socially inclined, see what is expected, know how to approach situations... There's this annoyance with those who don't recognize these things. You seem tactful...naturally want others to treat you similarly.
6. Which habit do you most automatically act on? Rank the following habits from most to least automatic, on a scale of 1 (most) to 3 (least).
a.) Work for personal gain with more concern for self than for others.
1
b.) Strive for a sense of tranquility in yourself and the world around you
3
c.) Decide what is right for the betterment of something or someone else.
2
I've never found this part of the questionnaire very conclusive, so I'm going to skip it.
7. Where does the wandering mind take you? What provokes this?
To the realm of why/how and wrong/right. Or it's just self guilt about a problem until of course I trouble shoot and I fix it.
1 influence... guilt about a problem, 6. Trouble-shooting and trying to fix it, that sort of self-reflection suggests again more of a "thinking" aspect than 4.
Here, I want to show you something someone has written that differentiates 2 and 4. It's subtle, but the way you want to "fix" things suggests a desire to improve which is 2.
A friend speaks of this same thing with someone else I know
I wanted to point out that this is not the type of introspection or reflection characterized in type 4. Type 4 doesn't tend to focus on such objective factors as what they've done, how they can improve and what worked and didn't - this stuff starts with you but spirals out, toward the future and change. Type 4 tends to get stuck in themselves, where they focus in, deeper into the stuff of who and what they are, and what in their understanding differentiates them from others, rather than on what they want to change.
8.What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
Intellectual discussions or friendly debates,
No specific type
giving advice, having a genuine connection with others, flirting,
Strong 2, perhaps some 6 influence with the giving advice. Giving advice is a way to help others... being understanding of others and knowing where they come from and wanting to help them is 2. 4s are more self-focused. "Genuine connection" can be any type. Flirting, and the impression I get from you is the "attractive/charming" thing you mentioned earlier. Being able to attract others like that... 2.
,having someone take my random ideas seriously, and good food/ friendly enviroment makes me feel my best.
Friendly environment seems to be social instinct in you... also allows you to be yourself.
Being dissmissed, feeling alone with no real connection, and being viewed as immoral, inadequate or ordinary makes me feel my worst.
I can relate to hating being dismissed, because I'm not taken seriously, because people aren't giving me a chance. "Feeling alone with no real connection" soc or sx instinct... desire to have a connection to the world, any of the attachment types (3, 6, 9). Viewed as immoral could be Fi, but strong superego influence (1, 2, 6). Inadequate is again, superego, looks like 2 and 6 though. Ordinary is one of the first things that you've said that could genuinely be 4, though I've never heard any 6 not want to be extraordinary.
9. Let's talk about emotions. Explain what might make you feel the following, how they feel to you or how you react to the emotion:
a.) anger: Luckly, i dont get angry often but when I do I usually cant control it. Im not super aggressive though. I think I already answered what makes me feel angry.
Gut fix isn't particularly clear here, but both 9 and 1 are here.
b.) shame: I feel the need to have to fix it immediatly, Its terriably uncomfortable for me. I dont give myself any excuses if i feel shame. I think what makes me feel shame is
when I act out of character or make a bad choice concerning someone else.
That urgent need to take out what makes you feel uncomfortable is 6. Wanting to fix it is 2 or 6. Not giving yourself excuses when you feel shame doesn't show the acceptance of ALL feelings, both "good" and "bad" that 4s have. Or the way they strive for it anyway. Act out of character could be 4 generally, and there were some others things that could be 4 actually...but the reason why I say they're 6 is because based on what I can tell of you, it seems to come from that influence and not 4.
c.) anxiety: when i feel insecure I tend to have bad social anxiety. It use to be the worst thing in the world for me but I can now transform that nervous energy into more positive energy.
w7 counter-balancing the 6. 7s are more NATURALLY positive. 6s will want to fight to be positive because it is more difficult for them, a meaningful goal for them.
I think in general without any substances that could alter this, I have limited energy. For example I love playing guitar and singing but within minutes im yawining and ready to pass out. im physically
tired. Playing infront of people or recording gives me anxiety, I learned to transfer that energy to my performance.
Same thing, could be so/sp instinct here.
10. Describe how you respond to the following:
a.) stress: I introvert, sleep alot, or ease the edge off my soberness.
Nothing stands out in particular.
b.) negative unexpected change: I immediatly think of ways to fix it, if i cant i try to see the benefits
Positive outlook, 2, 7, or 9.
c.) conflict: If im insecure I panic, If not I take it head-strong
6, aspects of both phobia and counterphobia.
11. a.) What kind of role are you naturally inclined to take in a group? Why?
Leader, Im good at making everyone happy yet giving everyone a clear path to follow based on individual.
Individual doesn't have to be 4. Seems Fi here. Good at making people happy, 2. Clear path, could be Te.
b.) If put in power, how do you behave? Why?
Open, kind, understanding but assertive.
Open, kind, understanding seems to be something you want people to be to you. And thus you give it to others as well, and it feels "right" to do it as well. Suggests 2 and 1 influence. Assertive is to give clear directions. Desire for clarity and to give clarity suggests 6 with 2 influence.
c.) Do you tend to struggle with others who have authority over you? Why?
Only if they are nonsensical or abuse their power.
1 / 6 (even 8, but don't see that in you).
12. What do you see or notice in others that most people don't?
SENSITIVITY
Could be many types. 4, 6, 8, 9, 1.
13 Briefly: What religious and/or political beliefs do you have? Do you think they influenced your responses in this questionnaire?
Im agnositic and concerning politics i sway to the liberal side. And no i dont
No opinion here.
So im bringing this up now, Maybe im a 5w4?? do you think so? I know its not common for ENFP's to be 5's but i dont think that should depict anything. I'm desperate at this point
Nah, not 5w4. Not detached enough, not withdrawn enough.
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Sorry, at the end of this I haven't spoken of 2 much... but the core type tends to be subtle. It's easier for me to pick out 6, 9, and 1. But I don't think those are your core types. It might seem like I'm excessively pointing out 6, but it's because I'm 6 and I want to set straight some things about the type. Also because I can easily identify with others, so there will be a way of projecting there.
Ultimately I still agree with 2w3 9w1 6w7 so/sp. Probably more sure of it after writing all this out. Might switch the fixes. Could be 2w3 6w7 9w1 sp/sp.
I really hope you read this because I feel like you didn't take me seriously and didn't know where I was coming from the types. Like, I felt like you thought I was making assumptions about you, and then you thus made assumptions about me :/. I hope this clears things up. Sorry if this is offensive