stormyapril
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So this is becoming a pattern, but I need to Ti vent. Even though I only am on here once every 2-6 months - the predictability is missing but the pattern is there. This is the one safe place I will actually call the world out (ok more like 75% of users w/ Ti in the 3rd/4th or worse - no position) - please tell me there is an INTP who has actually calculated this out because I have not had time to do the math because my Fi just turned into Ti and is derailing my thought process
Yes - As a Ti user we really do remember most details about our life. What happened when, who said what in a conversation, why we did the crazy shit we did, what we were thinking/feeling at the time... The amount of info is insane (I know) but when you make a statement that you don't remember, you are calling yourself stupid to us - see next reason!
Yes - We expect that most human beings have a clue and can remember details about their life - What did you eat last night? What did you do yesterday? Why did you decide that the plan of action was the right one? (Getting harder, I know) What are the key DETAILS as to why one plan works better over the other and major issues? Did you just go along with an idea because you like the person or did you do it because you actually THOUGHT about the best approach and have the ability to focus on important details and weed out useful, but not major ones?
Yes - It matters when you don't give credit to the right person - and if you only have a 6 month memory instead of a memory of what happened over a lifetime you will probably be picking the wrong person or leaving someone out - Come on, don't you Te/Fi users journal? If so try writing stuff down that you know you will forget...
Yes - If we scare you because we really do know the details, can pull off success out of insanely complex chaos, and seem to not be paying attention all at the same time (but are) - get over it and just trust us - the person in the room who seems in charge probably isn't, but is the lowest common Te denominator who ends up in control because they are slow and have to keep repeating themselves so that they 1) feel in control (and I do mean feel, the rarely KNOW anything) 2) Keep group Fi under control via constant "messaging" of the plan 3) work really well w/ Se doms who are always in the moment and who are also the focus of this rant
- quick Se test - if you look at that smiley jumping out of the cake and wondered what it would be like to have a hot girl or guy jump out of your cake and what's the big deal about objectifying anyone any way because it feels good - you have Se and wouldn't understand this post - DONT REPLY
Yes - It may look ADD, but have you ever considered that if it REALLY DOES ONLY TAKE US 1/8 OF THE TIME AS YOU to learn something that WE PROBABLY DO SEEM TO BE MOVING FASTER THAN YOU? I am just glad I figured this one out before I died - now I know why having to explain myself repeatedly pisses me off and also why now I feel perfectly alright stopping after the 3rd try - you probably wouldn't understand anyway
- That's a Ti user speeding away as you are still stuck scratching your head wondering what we were talking about in the first place.
Yes - It drives us crazy when groups of people actually think that meetings can be productive. RARELY does a meeting result in anything that actually moves anything forward in life - this is true at work and at home.
- See it is even depicted here - meetings are only useful and good if you can reach a decision or sing kum ba yah and help everyone feel better about themselves/each other - If not all you did was sit aroung and stare at each other and not make headway - There is still WORK to be done outside of the room. This is where I get really annoyed at heavy Te users - TELLING people what to do/taliking about what to do/discussing the "notion" about what "we" are going to do (see above about lowest common denominator and "looking" in charge) is NOT THE SAME as GETTING IT DONE. If you see someone actually creating and have actual work product (here is where Si users cross over into the Ti world) they are forwarding "the cause" not the folks who "thought" or "messaged" the work to be done. I actually think that this is turning into a sickness in our society but will reserve that one long huge social rant for a book.
So, truth is, I know this is probably not just about Ti and that there is some element of just being fairly intelligent and having a lot of mental capacity, but I see that these break points drive me crazy consistently. Probably because other types seem to have a lack of the strong Ti capacities in fairly predictable ways.
Thanks for reading this far if you have - don't really need a reply, but if you have any similar frustrations, feel free to dump here! I know I like to (I feel better already) Fi usually just pisses me off and doing this helps me get back to my happy world of schematics for everything (yes even relationships) and hard numbers and facts.
One last thing - Orobas - I wub you and if any of these generalizations seems unfair, I know you will tell me...
Yes - As a Ti user we really do remember most details about our life. What happened when, who said what in a conversation, why we did the crazy shit we did, what we were thinking/feeling at the time... The amount of info is insane (I know) but when you make a statement that you don't remember, you are calling yourself stupid to us - see next reason!
Yes - We expect that most human beings have a clue and can remember details about their life - What did you eat last night? What did you do yesterday? Why did you decide that the plan of action was the right one? (Getting harder, I know) What are the key DETAILS as to why one plan works better over the other and major issues? Did you just go along with an idea because you like the person or did you do it because you actually THOUGHT about the best approach and have the ability to focus on important details and weed out useful, but not major ones?
Yes - It matters when you don't give credit to the right person - and if you only have a 6 month memory instead of a memory of what happened over a lifetime you will probably be picking the wrong person or leaving someone out - Come on, don't you Te/Fi users journal? If so try writing stuff down that you know you will forget...
Yes - If we scare you because we really do know the details, can pull off success out of insanely complex chaos, and seem to not be paying attention all at the same time (but are) - get over it and just trust us - the person in the room who seems in charge probably isn't, but is the lowest common Te denominator who ends up in control because they are slow and have to keep repeating themselves so that they 1) feel in control (and I do mean feel, the rarely KNOW anything) 2) Keep group Fi under control via constant "messaging" of the plan 3) work really well w/ Se doms who are always in the moment and who are also the focus of this rant
- quick Se test - if you look at that smiley jumping out of the cake and wondered what it would be like to have a hot girl or guy jump out of your cake and what's the big deal about objectifying anyone any way because it feels good - you have Se and wouldn't understand this post - DONT REPLY
Yes - It may look ADD, but have you ever considered that if it REALLY DOES ONLY TAKE US 1/8 OF THE TIME AS YOU to learn something that WE PROBABLY DO SEEM TO BE MOVING FASTER THAN YOU? I am just glad I figured this one out before I died - now I know why having to explain myself repeatedly pisses me off and also why now I feel perfectly alright stopping after the 3rd try - you probably wouldn't understand anyway
- That's a Ti user speeding away as you are still stuck scratching your head wondering what we were talking about in the first place.
Yes - It drives us crazy when groups of people actually think that meetings can be productive. RARELY does a meeting result in anything that actually moves anything forward in life - this is true at work and at home.
- See it is even depicted here - meetings are only useful and good if you can reach a decision or sing kum ba yah and help everyone feel better about themselves/each other - If not all you did was sit aroung and stare at each other and not make headway - There is still WORK to be done outside of the room. This is where I get really annoyed at heavy Te users - TELLING people what to do/taliking about what to do/discussing the "notion" about what "we" are going to do (see above about lowest common denominator and "looking" in charge) is NOT THE SAME as GETTING IT DONE. If you see someone actually creating and have actual work product (here is where Si users cross over into the Ti world) they are forwarding "the cause" not the folks who "thought" or "messaged" the work to be done. I actually think that this is turning into a sickness in our society but will reserve that one long huge social rant for a book.
So, truth is, I know this is probably not just about Ti and that there is some element of just being fairly intelligent and having a lot of mental capacity, but I see that these break points drive me crazy consistently. Probably because other types seem to have a lack of the strong Ti capacities in fairly predictable ways.
Thanks for reading this far if you have - don't really need a reply, but if you have any similar frustrations, feel free to dump here! I know I like to (I feel better already) Fi usually just pisses me off and doing this helps me get back to my happy world of schematics for everything (yes even relationships) and hard numbers and facts.
One last thing - Orobas - I wub you and if any of these generalizations seems unfair, I know you will tell me...