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Well?
It just doesn't seem possible... or likely.
It just doesn't seem possible... or likely.
Yes, I think a lot of SFP artists get labeled as N here. Which is weird to me because some of the best artists I know in real life are ISFPs. ISFPs, in particular, always stuck out to me as one of the most unique and creative types. I think many have a good handle on intuition, which trips some people up when typing.
Isn't that an insult to jazz musicians?ISFP jazz musicians totally rock.
Intuition and experience are often similar -- get enough experience under your belt and you can learn to "recognize" patterns and access old ones you've experienced before. It looks like intuition, but intuition is really more of "jumping into space believing you'll be okay" without having been in a similar situation before, whereas experience is "jumping into space knowing you've done similar things or experienced similar things before and they worked, so this'll work too."
If you're of any kind of importance or interest, unless you're a complete arse, you're an N.
Intuition and experience are often similar -- get enough experience under your belt and you can learn to "recognize" patterns and access old ones you've experienced before. It looks like intuition, but intuition is really more of "jumping into space believing you'll be okay" without having been in a similar situation before, whereas experience is "jumping into space knowing you've done similar things or experienced similar things before and they worked, so this'll work too."
In any case, if there is anything SPs acquire, it is experience.
The bolded is something the SPs I know do a lot of, probably more than I do.
Half the time you see someone arguing for some celebrity being an N it's based on this bias that Ss can't be smart or talented.
It's not N mania.
It's simply that people assume creativity = N.
And everyone wants to be seen as creative.
But that is not what iNtuition is.
To be honest, most of the really good musicians I know are all SPs. Why are they good? Because they adapt easily, and they like variety, and they like to play all the time (e.g. unstructured but continual practice), and they like to listen to what others have done and learn how to copy it and then take it someplace new and fun. SPs love to immerse themselves in the experience, and this is great for a live-performance artist.
Same thing with the physical arts (dance, sculpture, painting, etc.)
I think N's usually get handpicked as representative of "artists" simply because their performances are more likely to really veer into something new and different, so they stick out more... they are more likely to transcend the medium and make it something else, whereas the SP artists are more apt to be the best you can be within the bounds of the medium, more than other types find themselves capable of. While I sit around imagining and thinking about art, these guys are actually doing it and so often they can be "better" than the N who is imagining things but not practicing and doing.
Yeah, on here. I know, you are right (about thinking what I want to think, etc). Still, it just kind of irks me, especially when, for example, personality theorists like Keirsey and Thomson consider musicians typically to be ISPs but the lists people put up on here, practically everyone (they hypothesize) is an N. That's all.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off, mind you, just pointing something out. And trying to understand where the N mania arises from.
Intuition and experience are often similar -- get enough experience under your belt and you can learn to "recognize" patterns and access old ones you've experienced before. It looks like intuition, but intuition is really more of "jumping into space believing you'll be okay" without having been in a similar situation before, whereas experience is "jumping into space knowing you've done similar things or experienced similar things before and they worked, so this'll work too."
(And of course, it's not that clear cut -- people use all their skills, not just exclusively S or exclusively N.)
In any case, if there is anything SPs acquire, it is experience.
ISFP jazz musicians totally rock.
You started a whole thread making an insane claim that Jay-Z is ENTJ.
The gall of you coming in this thread is astounding.
Rather than you realize Jay-Z and the majority of rapper/hip-hop artists are SP,
you dared to suggest I was racist for disagreeing with your insane suggestion, that Jay-Z was ENTJ.
Just because people refuse to agree with you, doesn't make them racist.
That certainly isn't my viewpoint.