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Would you like to know "what's really going on"?

Do you want to know the "Top Secrets"?

  • Yes I do, I would risk all to know all.

    Votes: 2 100.0%
  • I'll definitely pass, curiosity killed the cat.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    2

Lark

Active member
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I have read in the past that national governments have more in the way of intelligence than they could ever admit to without revealing their sources to scrutiny or possible compromise/assassination, I've seen good writing in television undercover police dramas which circulates around this very dilemma.

In some science fiction circles this dilemma is referred to as the "Dark Forest" theory, that is that the universe is a large "dark forest" full of Apex predators and the continued survival of any of its inhabitants depends on their remaining concealed/hidden from one another. This is why there has never been any "contact" or "first contact" as any species clever enough to master interplanetary travel would also have mastered remaining hidden in order to guarantee its continued survival.

My question is that if you were ever in a position where you suspected that "full and complete" information could involve jeopardy to yourself or loved ones would you want it? Would you be content with partial or incomplete information?

For the purposes of this discussion presume that your own survival and that of your loved ones or wealth or welfare or health or whatever is not contingent upon you ever possessing "full and complete" information. It would largely be about satisfying your curiosity/confirming your suspicions. It is not certain that it would jeopardize your and loved ones safety but it is a definite possibility.
 

Virtual ghost

Complex paradigm
Joined
Jun 6, 2008
Messages
19,855
My tritype says "triple competency" focus, therefore I just can't fundamentally walk out on the "knowing". How to avoid pitfalls along the road is another matter but "knowing" for me doesn't really have the alternative.
 

The Cat

Just a Magic Cat who hangs out at the Crossroads.
Staff member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
23,725
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
 

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

Up the Wolves
Joined
Jul 24, 2008
Messages
19,645
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
This is basically the blue pill vs. the red pill without the baggage that has acquired. I'd probably take the red pill.
 

The Cat

Just a Magic Cat who hangs out at the Crossroads.
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This is basically the blue pill vs. the red pill without the baggage that has acquired. I'd probably take the red pill.

I just know there's a take out there. Where Neo looks stoically at Morpheus, then snatches both pills and takes them and runs.
 

Siúil a Rúin

when the colors fade
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Apr 23, 2007
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14,044
MBTI Type
ISFP
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496
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sp/sx
I would like to know what is really going on so I can make the right choices in response to it. I don't know that I would risk everything and would surmise that if it required that, then whatever is going on is bad. I tend to like the raw truth about situations and don't like living in an imaginary world, although sometimes I have by mistake. I think the truth eventually wins out, so you might as well start with it to save energy and mixups.
 
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