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[Traditional Enneagram] Am I a Type 3 or a Type 7?

OneLovelyAdventure

Gryffindor Prefect
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ENFP
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378
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sx/so
I used to struggle with whether I was a 2w3 or a 3w2, and after settling on 3w2 I discovered a new battle: 3w2 or 7w6? (7w8 is also possible, but I'm kind of leaning towards w6.) Which of these sounds more like me?

On the 3 side: Pretty basically, my biggest fear is being worthless or not good enough and having a poor image. Being unfulfilled in my life horrifies me and I often put on the image of someone who is very successful and on top of things. I am very image-conscious and I am very conscious of how I appear at all times. I can be remarkably charming and attractive depending on the situation, and I often put a lot of effort into my appearance, including a strict workout regiment (which even resulted in an eating disorder some years back.) I am incredibly hesitant to share any negative emotions because I want to appear strong and competent and capable and in-control. I have often said that I'd rather be envied than liked. I heavily value my independence and would almost always do a project alone because I know that's the only way to get it done to my standards. I often have mental competitions with people and am often very jealous when other people achieve the success that I would like to achieve or are the center of attention.

On the 7 side: I very frequently have trouble motivating myself to get started if it's something I don't care 100% about. My grades, for instance -- though I care about them, I have serious difficulties getting things done early and often submit a version of my work that may not be up to my capabilities. I believe that "everything will work out the way it is meant to" and am very optimistic. Around my friends and acquaintances, I am among the silliest and least reserved, and I can often be far from the diplomatic typical 3 -- quite the opposite; I am often very blunt and outspoken when something is bothering me. I value happiness in my life. I love food and alcohol and other pleasures like that, and I often allow myself to indulge in them -- however, I always get back on a workout track (for instance) after doing so. Sometimes I don't put effort into my appearance if just going to class or traveling somewhere because I don't feel the need to impress the people I don't really know.

I think the bottom line is that my deepest fears and deepest desires are very 3-like but my habits tend to be 7-like. Which do you think sounds more like me? (If it helps, I know that they are both in my tritype, and my gut type is 8.)
 

HongDou

navigating
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Nov 23, 2012
Messages
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ENFP
Enneagram
6w7
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so/sx
From what you said it sounds like your fears are more rooted in your image and self-worth, while what you said for type 7 isn't necessarily exclusive to type 7. So I'd go with 2w3/3w2 :D
 

Rouskyrie

New member
Joined
Aug 11, 2016
Messages
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I used to struggle with whether I was a 2w3 or a 3w2, and after settling on 3w2 I discovered a new battle: 3w2 or 7w6? (7w8 is also possible, but I'm kind of leaning towards w6.) Which of these sounds more like me?

On the 3 side: Pretty basically, my biggest fear is being worthless or not good enough and having a poor image. Being unfulfilled in my life horrifies me and I often put on the image of someone who is very successful and on top of things. I am very image-conscious and I am very conscious of how I appear at all times. I can be remarkably charming and attractive depending on the situation, and I often put a lot of effort into my appearance, including a strict workout regiment (which even resulted in an eating disorder some years back.) I am incredibly hesitant to share any negative emotions because I want to appear strong and competent and capable and in-control. I have often said that I'd rather be envied than liked. I heavily value my independence and would almost always do a project alone because I know that's the only way to get it done to my standards. I often have mental competitions with people and am often very jealous when other people achieve the success that I would like to achieve or are the center of attention.

On the 7 side: I very frequently have trouble motivating myself to get started if it's something I don't care 100% about. My grades, for instance -- though I care about them, I have serious difficulties getting things done early and often submit a version of my work that may not be up to my capabilities. I believe that "everything will work out the way it is meant to" and am very optimistic. Around my friends and acquaintances, I am among the silliest and least reserved, and I can often be far from the diplomatic typical 3 -- quite the opposite; I am often very blunt and outspoken when something is bothering me. I value happiness in my life. I love food and alcohol and other pleasures like that, and I often allow myself to indulge in them -- however, I always get back on a workout track (for instance) after doing so. Sometimes I don't put effort into my appearance if just going to class or traveling somewhere because I don't feel the need to impress the people I don't really know.

I think the bottom line is that my deepest fears and deepest desires are very 3-like but my habits tend to be 7-like. Which do you think sounds more like me? (If it helps, I know that they are both in my tritype, and my gut type is 8.)

Based on your post, I would say 3w2 > 7w6.
 

Ursa

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ESTJ
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8w7
Basic fears and motivations take precedence over behaviors in the enneagram model. I'm going with 3 since your fears and motivations are centered on your image.
 
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