Fluffywolf
Nips away your dignity
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I Wish people would stop personally attacking me for making a thread where I have a difference of opinion from others in the thread.
I don't see any personal attacks, just on your opinion regarding this subject.
To be fair, calling a generalization evil on any account was probably a bad idea (at least my opinion is as such). Evil is ambigious. Calling it out in a generalisation is going to turn some heads. Still, let me just make it clear, I have a lot of understanding for your point of view and I don't believe it makes you a bad person whatsoever. Like I said in my first post, you're passionately trying to make a better world. You and most of the worlds population would probably see it this way too. It is probably the most common view. I just believe your perspective is limited and youre judgements hasty.
Saying all psychopaths evil is like saying all nazi's were all evil, while in truth most of the nazi's were normal people like you and me who were run and lead by people with the worst intentions and were completely caught in those peoples worldviews.
People are mallable and prone to subjective idealism to the point of getting stuck in those mindsets. If there is a goal I wanted to reach with my stance on this subject, it is that I would prefer it if people would withhold their subjective judgements and keep trying to think and approach these subjects from a critical thinking point of view.
For example, had everyone in early 20th century germany been well educated and capable of such thinking, much horror could've probably been prevented. The amount of people going "Wait just a minute, what the hell are we doing." would have been a lot more. A whole country probably wouldn't have moved as it did.
I just think the same mindset holds true for psychopaths. Judging on actions done is fine, but where did that person go wrong? Who or what was truly at fault in that situation and how could it have been prevented? I don't like the idea of judging people on what they are capable of. An entire country was capable of killing 15 million people in the span of a couple of years. Based on history, we should then condemn every single person.
An enlightended society capable of looking past such things, would instead look for possible causes and try to prevent those causes from happening. Rather than proactively trying to exclude people from society which I believe would be counter-productive in literally every situation. Continueing to focus on being an inclusive society, focusing on preventive measures while withholding judgements has in my opinion the best chances to protect people from such crimes. By trying to make sure they do not happen. History shows pretty much everyone has the capability to do harm, in most cases the reason why people commit these acts is due to their environment and society failing them and lacking the proper education and mindset to protect themselves from those failings.
Let's try our best not to fall in such a mindset and protect ourselves from who we might become even in the worst of environments.
Also, I understand the discussion might be very overbearing for you. But I think it is still an important discussion. You represent the vast majority of the people in this discussion. Most people would definately agree with you and I think there aren't enough discussions about this subject really.
PS: Also, in the psychology spheres, there still isn't a conclusion made on what psychopaths are and studies of psychopaths still hasn't reached a level of understanding that is enough to reach consensus. But just because we don't fully understand it, something still must be done and descision must be made. Unfortunately, the best ways to deal with these things costs the most money as well, so legislation regarding these matters is far from perfect.