What Does This Election Represent To You?

[dunce]

You posted no prior education plan that you claimed was "similar" to the so-called "last time." And you know it. Frankly, I don't think you even read the plan at his site, especially given its length. This is a waste of time.

As I have shown just because someone writes something doesn't mean they will do it. More specifically this person Joey Biden has had his constituency propose to be running on a democratic platform and has actually done the reverse of what was advertised. In the article it states he ran as a democrat and the democratic platform at the time was the same as it is now - to reduce education costs by taxing the wealthy. He did the reverse. If you argue that somehow the democratic platform was to rip people off, please post it. Not only that he made student loans unforgivable quadrupling the cost of education through a wNt bubble.

 

[Jaguar]

As I have shown just because someone writes something doesn't mean they will do.l, and this person has had his constituency propose to be running on a democratic platform and ha actually done the reverse. In the article it states he ran as a democrat and the democratic platform at the time was the same as it is now - to reduce education costs by taxing the wealthy. He did the reverse.

Still no "similar" prior plan posted for all to see. I'll leave you to converse with yourself.

Later.

 

[dunce]

Still no "similar" prior plan posted for all to see. I'll leave you to converse with yourself. Later.

Again if you argue that the democrats ran on the premise of wanting to increase the cost of education by fourfold then it is for you to provide that evidence. I am claiming the default position that democrats run on reducing the cost of education as part of my premise. It's common knowledge actually that that's been part of the platform for the last twenty years. Would you bet someone to show you that apples fall according to the laws of gravity if you were claiming they levitate? That's rediculous in a debate. It's perfectly fine to ignore a valid debate but don't be offended that I'm not going to google something so obvious for you.

 

[Jaguar]

Again if are segueing that the democrats ran on the premise of wanting to increase the cost of education by fourfold then it is for you to provide that evidence. I am claiming the default position that democrats run on reducing the cost of education. It's common knowledge. Would you bet someone to show you that apples fall according to the laws of gravity if you were claiming they levitate? That's rediculous in a debate.

You didn't segue, you avoided backing up your claim. Period.

Edit: Te dom, here. Don't fuck around in rep comment, kiddo. It won't fly.

 

[dunce]

You didn't segue, you avoided backing up your claim. Period. Edit: Te dom, here. Don't fuck around in rep comment, kiddo. It won't fly.

Sounds like you're having a meltdown. I didn't realize having a debate strictly according to the facts would touch a nerve. If it's any consolation to you, brings you any peace of mind, I gave you a rep because you were having a somewhat civil discourse, albeit mired with logical inconsistency.


That being said I no longer chose to discuss this with you as you seem to want to beat up or make threats on the "kiddos" rather than have an actual debate, at least not while sticking to some informal rule civility. So stop responding to me.

 

[Jaguar]

Sounds like you're having a meltdown.

Do better.

And to any mod who comes across this - instead of throwing the exchange into OT thread, cut it and title the thread: Biden Education Plan. People have a right to know what is bullshit and what is not at election time.

 

[anticlimatic]

A crooked fake billionaire who enriches his friends, family and himself while admitting to tax fraud and firing anyone who dares to not bend to his will is really an outsider? I get that on both sides of the political spectrum that they can agree th establishment sucks, but Donald Trump promotes the agendas of the establishment and extremely wealthy just as much as anybody else.

...between TDS, and sanity.

 

[dunce]

This election represents either a turn towards balance or an avalanche towards elitism. On one hand you have the career politician - Joe Biden. His only real legacy is destroying the middle class before a recession and making student loans unforgivable, and thereby creating a tuition bubble. On the other hand you have a narcissistic billionaire but who at least has enough common sense to understand that a progress towards socialism will inevitably result in violence and civil war.
during the era of trump GDP and markets hit an all time high. Trump banned international travel and Biden accuses him of xenophobia. I wish we had a third option. I would have voted for Tulsy Gabbard but the democratic machine is as corporate as a Nike, a company that sponsors Muslim slavery through third party contractors yet on the other hand, two facedly, sponsors Collin Kapernick and disingenuously hashtags black lives matter. Meanwhile we have also witnessed massive wealth transfers promoted by both democrats and republicans nearly wiping out all small business.


it seems like we should vote now for the lesser of two evils? Who will you pick? This represents a catch 22.

 

[Firebird 8118]

This election represents either a turn towards balance or an avalanche towards elitism. On one hand you have the career politician - Joe Biden. His only real legacy is destroying the middle class before a recession and making student loans unforgivable, and thereby creating a tuition bubble. On the other hand you have a narcissistic billionaire but who at least has enough common sense to understand that a progress towards socialism will inevitably result in violence and civil war.
during the era of trump GDP and markets hit an all time high. Trump banned international travel and Biden accuses him of xenophobia. I wish we had a third option. I would have voted for Tulsy Gabbard but the democratic machine is as corporate as a Nike, a company that sponsors Muslim slavery through third party contractors yet on the other hand, two facedly, sponsors Collin Kapernick and disingenuously hashtags black lives matter. Meanwhile we have also witnessed massive wealth transfers promoted by both democrats and republicans nearly wiping out all small business.


it seems like we should vote now for the lesser of two evils? Who will you pick? This represents a catch 22.

I agree with the “voting for the lesser of two evils” thing... but I’m on the other side of the line.

As I always say, Biden would’ve never been my first choice. But I’d rather have him lead than Trump.

 

[ceecee]

Hmmmm...

 

[Red Memories]

I feel like this election has such an array of meanings to others compared to my own feeling on it, which is it just varies which side will begin burning things down....

 

[Schrödinger's Name]

I know some Europeans worry it will be the beginning of the actual downfall of democracy. They believe it won't only affect America. Or well, not some simple Europeans- historians and some other scholars are warning people about this (they were probably doing this earlier than yesterday and I know most people are probably aware of this but I don't follow the news, okay). How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus

I am just sitting here like...

As usual.

 

[Dreamer]

This post doesn’t represent what this election means to me, but it’s clear whatever this election might mean to each one of you, this is undoubtedly a war between two “realities”. Both sides seem to be talking past one another and neither are speaking the same language. If there were ever a time for legitmate civil war to break out, we may just be on the precipice.

 

[dunce]

This post doesn't represent what this election means to me, but it's clear whatever this election might mean to each one of you, this is undoubtedly a war between two "realities". Both sides seem to be talking past one another and neither are speaking the same language. If there were ever a time for legitmate civil war to break out, we may just be on the precipice.

That's why I stick to just the economic facts. You'll notice in my above posts I mention what the candidate did versus what he is saying he's going to do and called out the candidate for not doing what he said in the past. I'm not here talking about absurd visions or anything symbolic. I'm cutting straight to the do versus say quality of the candidate and I am completely indiffferent and unbiased in that I vote for the party that is weaker, always.

 

[dunce]

I know some Europeans worry it will be the beginning of the actual downfall of democracy. They believe it won't only affect America. Or well, not some simple Europeans- historians and some other scholars are warning people about this (they were probably doing this earlier than yesterday and I know most people are probably aware of this but I don't follow the news, okay). How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus I am just sitting here like...

As usual.

That's hilariously overblown. If trump tried to move the country towards fascism the military and fbi would escort him to prison.

 

[julesiscools]

This post doesn’t represent what this election means to me, but it’s clear whatever this election might mean to each one of you, this is undoubtedly a war between two “realities”. Both sides seem to be talking past one another and neither are speaking the same language. If there were ever a time for legitmate civil war to break out, we may just be on the precipice.

Well said! I often feel like we're currently two countries contained within one. Would not be surprised if we end up with the outcome of being broken into separate countries.

 

[Jaguar]

The future is not for some people, they're stuck in the past.

 

[ceecee]

That's hilariously overblown. If trump tried to move the country towards fascism the military and fbi would escort him to prison.

So you will be voting for Trump then? Seems like a whole lot of words to justify that. You still haven't answered my question about what you are doing for the working people you claim to care about most. Beyond bitching about Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.

 

[dunce]

I'm paying all my taxes and in the bracket that gets taxed the highest. I work 80 hours and get 40 percent of my wages. I give it to the government and then they dump into the fat cats pockets while the poor inner city black and Latino kids get the chump change to the point public school teachers get exploited and have to buy their own paper. Welcome to Chicago, New York, and La where the rich get richer and he middle class pays for the poor to get robbed.

 

[Jaguar]

So you will be voting for Trump then? Seems like a whole lot of words to justify that. You still haven't answered my question about what you are doing for the working people you claim to care about most. Beyond bitching about Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.

I believe the person had a major problem with Nancy getting her hair done in a salon. Definitely grounds for voting Trump.