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psicobolche
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I think this approach seems counter-intuitive. I'll use Ti-Te as my example, because, well it's the one I feel most comfortable with.
I've been thinking about this quite a lot recently, because I don't find I identify with the standard "INTP" character, and in fact have realized I much prefer INTJ forums to INTP forums, as they are more grounded in reality, respectful, and constructive in terms of conversation, rather than dominated by unhealthy repressed emotions and narcissism.
At the same time, I don't like the function descriptions of Ni and Te. Firstly, I'm a materialist philosophically, so the idea of some "premonition" or "mystic" state from where we "just know" the truth, I find to be metaphysical bullshit, the worst kind of hateful, backwards obscurantism. Likewise, I'm really not that organized or linear in my thinking.
As for Ti-Te, surely, Te is just applied Ti? The idea that a Ti-dominant person or a Te dominant person wouldn't even posses the intro/extra versions of that function, is jsut fucking bizzarre. Look at the actual descriptions for the two functions? How on earth could someone with strong Ti not have a lot of Te, and vice-versa? I mean, I use Ti, and then when sure of something, I use Te. I've found myself using Te a lot recently. Also I guess that "sureness" equates with an internalization of Ne into Ni. And it's permanently switchable, it seems to me. Ne gives you ability to grasp a theory and play with it, and Ni comes when you consolidated it into a whole, relatively consolidated vision, which you then implement with Te.
It seems to me that the very compartmentalized ideas that INTP/INTJ don't have Te/Ti-Ni/Ne, are just sloppy ideas, and ultiumately just end up getting used by people on forums who want to make excuses for either lack of application of their ideas, or for lack of flexibility of their ideas, and that a normal person has all of these tendencies (though not in equal amounts), while a healthy person should aspire to balancing them well and effectively.
Any thoughts?
I've been thinking about this quite a lot recently, because I don't find I identify with the standard "INTP" character, and in fact have realized I much prefer INTJ forums to INTP forums, as they are more grounded in reality, respectful, and constructive in terms of conversation, rather than dominated by unhealthy repressed emotions and narcissism.
At the same time, I don't like the function descriptions of Ni and Te. Firstly, I'm a materialist philosophically, so the idea of some "premonition" or "mystic" state from where we "just know" the truth, I find to be metaphysical bullshit, the worst kind of hateful, backwards obscurantism. Likewise, I'm really not that organized or linear in my thinking.
As for Ti-Te, surely, Te is just applied Ti? The idea that a Ti-dominant person or a Te dominant person wouldn't even posses the intro/extra versions of that function, is jsut fucking bizzarre. Look at the actual descriptions for the two functions? How on earth could someone with strong Ti not have a lot of Te, and vice-versa? I mean, I use Ti, and then when sure of something, I use Te. I've found myself using Te a lot recently. Also I guess that "sureness" equates with an internalization of Ne into Ni. And it's permanently switchable, it seems to me. Ne gives you ability to grasp a theory and play with it, and Ni comes when you consolidated it into a whole, relatively consolidated vision, which you then implement with Te.
It seems to me that the very compartmentalized ideas that INTP/INTJ don't have Te/Ti-Ni/Ne, are just sloppy ideas, and ultiumately just end up getting used by people on forums who want to make excuses for either lack of application of their ideas, or for lack of flexibility of their ideas, and that a normal person has all of these tendencies (though not in equal amounts), while a healthy person should aspire to balancing them well and effectively.
Any thoughts?
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