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Cold war 2.0

Virtual ghost

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At this point I think we need this thread. Since we are evidently beyond daily politics and random instabilities around the world. Because what is happening is evidently an open beginning of new era for the world. Which kinda has similarities to the cold war but this time the situation in much more complex. Since there are multiple players and the world is much more interconnected than a few decades ago. However in the bottom line just as the last time the world can be divided into two blocks and countries that are in between the blocks or kinda neutral (usually since they are too poor and void of resources that anyone cares about them). Plus there will be plenty of events that may not look to be directly linked to this struggle but they will evidently have an impact or interconnection with it (mostly internal politics of various countries) .



The Western block:

USA - the global superpower that evidently lost it's course and got lost in the maze of problems. However despite this it is still one of the most powerful countries in the world that has huge impact on what is going on. If western bloc will win that will by a large part have something to do with how USA will arrange it's priorities.


EU - the ever closer block of countries that is trying to establish itself as a relevant player in global events. What is both kinda offensive and defensive strategy of the countries that are too small to play in the top league. Vision, regulation and human friendly rules are the strength of the block when compared to many other players in the struggle. The bock has a few satellites of their own, as well as a few political bad apples.


CANZUK - Canada, Australia, New Zealand and UK: thus far very lose group of countries that is fairly similar to the US but with some differences. The block is scattered around the world and it has low population and quite low population density for the most part. But it has observable impact on the world.


Indo-pacific allies - also a fairly lose block with links to the USA. The main countries here are Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and increasingly India. Which is finding itself isolated by hostile or autocratic neighbors. Plus there are some smaller countries that lean or could be considered to be the part of the block.


Gulf states - a number of fairly autocratic countries in the Middle East which sides with the west on most issues. Countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait ... etc. The region is very rich in energy supplies. Israel is kinda becoming a part of this story. Since the story is "pro-western parts of the Middle East".




The Eastern block:

China - the most populous country in the world that is trying to become the leading nation in the world. What it is trying to achieve through mass production of goods, autocratic but focused government, as well as huge population size. Without China this entire struggle probably would not be happening since the country is trying to remake the world order to it's image.


Russia: evident loser of the first cold war that also wants to regain some of it's lost glory and territory. Their leadership is advanced in mind games and country is rich in natural resources. What allows strength or influence above it's population size.


East leaning autocracies around the world - not really a block but a pretty large group of undemocratic countries where leadership sees their survival in following China and Russia. Which are their main suppliers of goods, security, resources or technology. Many countries can fit into the group but the most observable ones are: Belarus, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Iran, various countries in Africa, whole of central Asia, Myanmar ... etc.






Countries that still lack a clear pick in side: very large parts of the world still don't have a clear side in this political conflict and many don't even want it. However since the world is so interconnected this is the position that can be hard to manage. However despite that this is the position of some of the largest countries in the world as well as the whole parts of some continents. The most obvious countries here are Brazil, Indonesia, Philippines, Argentina, Turkey, Egypt, large chunks of Africa, .... etc.


So with this defined the only real question left is where all of this will lead and how long it is going to last. Since this can be over within a year or two or like the last time it can drag for decades. What in the end basically defines how exactly will the 21th century unfold. But ether way this will cause plenty of socio-economic turbulence abound the world since the world order isn't defined in current situation. Plus there are wildcards such as COVID19 and climate change, which can easily twist how things are playing out. Therefore this will indeed be a genuine game of thrones.
 

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Boris Johnson calls on NATO to go global


For a while I am thinking about this idea. Because in a way it would make sense to expand the concept to any genuinely democratic nation that really wants it. Of course the alliance would have to be renamed but that isn't really the problem. However for many nations this would be of real practical help, the most obvious ones are in pacific. Plus with this US would get harder buffer zones from both sides.
 

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Von der Leyen: Europe’s winter will be fine without Russian gas

This is basically the story that is kinda behind the Ukraine crisis in the big picture. Because if EU lowers dependency on the Russian energy then that changes the balances of power and Russian position is weakening in political sense. What could result with increased aggression, but the other side will be evidently better prepared for that if there isn't this energy factory directly in the game. The good thing is that warmer part of the year is coming, what makes it easier to do transitions.
 

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A defiant Zelenskiy promises Ukraine will defend itself ‘with or without’ allies


Here I must say that I agree with Zelenskiy, since more could have been done for the Ukraine. After all well prepared Ukraine is the best deterrence to prevent the war that will have evident global implications (if anything the energy price will be effected). Therefore if Russia sees that it will not have large loses that kinda serves as a invitation.
 

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Kremlin lashes out at Ukraine and NATO after call with Macron
Judging by all recent event this could be it. Especially since the Olympics are coming to an end.



Nepal protest turns violent as lawmakers debate US grant
Focus at this point is on Ukraine but here the heat is also growing and it kinda out of similar reasons. The ruling coalition could supposedly collapse.



Pakistan: Militant attacks in Balochistan put pressure on China's infrastructure plans
For years many locals are unhappy and see all of this as a form of colonization.
 

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Israel is particularly vulnerable, having a Russian-propped Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and an Iran (and all the groups such as Hizbullah and Hamas aligned with it) susceptible to Russian and Chinese influence.
 

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It is true that the consequences of war in Ukraine could be severe for the Middle East and the world.



How could the Ukraine crisis affect the Middle East?

"Ukraine exports 95% of its grain through the Black Sea and more than 50% of its wheat exports went to the Middle East and North Africa region in 2020," according to a reportby the Washington-based Middle East Institute (MEI).

Therefore, a disruption would have "dire consequences" for food security in "already-fragile countries," warns the Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS).

It's estimated that Lebanon and Libya import about 40% of their wheat from Russia and Ukraine, Yemen around 20%, and Egypt around 80%.

Therefore, any disruption of wheat supplies would heavily affect the Middle East, with shortages and price hikes. "That is going to potentially be a significant problem," Bianco told DW.

"When the price of bread skyrockets to the extent that people cannot afford it, people start taking to the streets."


As matter of fact the Arab spring started when this supply chain got disrupted due to the extreme weather. What in the end means that this could lead into even bigger migrant crisis in the future and it could also undermine the reserve currency of the world. Through instability in oil rich countries or around them. Therefore the stakes are much higher than it seems. Plus if Ukriane falls a number of countries could switch allegiance in exchange for stable and affordable supply of food. Which the west probably can't provide due to it's volume, cost of living and distance, what then makes this unaffordable for many locals. Not to mention that at this point just a naval blockade would do the trick, you don't even need to invade to create the supply chain mess. .
 

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The basics of history behind what is going in Ukraine. Since the problem is hardly something that is of newer origin.


33.3% ready to take arms against Russia.That's probably vast majority of people viable for military service. Haven't watched it all, but Pan-slavism is a Russian imperialist ideology going back to XIXth century. Russian authoritarianism and imperialism was a problem for centuries. Was recently reading an interesting book about Crimean war of 1853-1856 - Crimea: The Last Crusade by Orlando Figes.

The main problem is that Russia wasn't finished off during WWII like Germany was so there's an uninterrupted tradition of imperialism that is centuries long. They should have nuked it's military capabilities out of existence in the 40s before Russians got their own nukes.
 
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it matters little but I predicted around 2000 that unilateralism would become the norm again and that no one dominant nationstate would exist in the early 21st century, but rather multiple competing states would emerge as the US's influence (predictably) waned

20th century cold war technically wasn't even the first such "conflict" in history.

The phase we are leaving behind (multilateralism) has unfortunately not been the historic norm, nor do I think it will be the norm again for some time, very likely not in any of our lieftimes.
 
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