[ISTP] Why do some ISTPs like INFPs?

[entropie]

I still like you, you're in my top 10 they're in my top 3

phew

 

[Poki]

Quality ISTP friend says he finds my actions and thinking strange = more intriguing than most other people he encounters. I get the “You are the only person I’ve ever known who _______” feedback a lot from this type. Chemistry can be TASTY!!

Lots of potential for miscommunication too. Frequently arriving at similar destinations … but by VERY different routes I have learnt the best thing is, to be clear & ask lots of questions. The ISTP’s are generally already proficient in this regard.

Yes at bolded, but at the end of the day from my experience we can completely Trust the other due to what we both hold in high regard. INFPs are some of the types I can pretty much let go of any so called "perceived" issues and just trust and not be let down often at all. We just walk different paths, though care about the same things which is why we end up in similar destinations.

 

[entropie]

The fear of being let down, never is other peoples problem...

 

[Poki]

I have a theory. I test as ENTj-Te a lot on socionics tests and even on dichotomy or cog funct mbti tests, but I'm an ISTP. I wonder, since INTJs and ENFPs are supposed to get along well if an ISTP which appears ENTJ might be attracted to an INFP for similar reasons, or maybe the INFP for some reason mimics the ISTP's dual type (or I forget the technical term for it) in some way.

Yes, we do mimic each others dual, we are just not quite there for full duality. But from the INFPs I know its not really a hinderance to a relationship. The differences from duality are minimal.

Here is the socionics relationship

(1)These are relations of mutual respect between partners. Super-Ego partners may think of each other as a distant and slightly mysterious ideal. They often show interest in each other's manners, behaviour and thought composition. Both partners experience a warm feeling towards each other, but for the outsider, these relations may look cold.

(2)If Super-Ego partners cannot find common interests, their interaction can become very formal. Partners normally think more about expressing their own point of view than listening to their partner. This expression comes from the confident side of one of the partners reaching the unconfident side of the other partner. The latter tries to defend themselves by projecting their confident points in return. Partners normally show interest and respect to each other if they do not know each other well enough. When partners start more close interaction, they start experiencing many problems.

(3)Super-Ego partners may think that they understand each other well. However, when it comes to day to day matters or co-operative activity, partners start thinking that their partner is deliberately trying to do everything wrong. Super-Ego partners are not interested and do not make each other aware of their intentions. Therefore their actions may look exactly opposite to what was expected. Although the hope and the feeling between partners may remain as before, it does not prevent the conflicts penetrating their relationship.

When both partners are extroverts, one of them usually feels more unsatisfied with their position. The explanation for this is that they believe that the other partner does not pay as much attention to them as they should and are too occupied with their own matters.(4) Between two introvert partners, one is always thinks about the other as being too obtrusive and clingy. In any case, friction usually begins when partners shift to a more close relationship.

So lets break it down.

Bolded (1): We are both introverts, we are both very warm, etc. in similar manners yet different. Creates a very close and comfortable relationships

Bolded (2): With introverts to really connect presence is required, due to common introversion once past that initial hill we just meld together. Trust in what the other person is good at really helps as well as just letting go as we DO try to go different directions. You have to let go of the stubbornness or problems will arise. Compromise in regard to life or problems will arise very easily and quickly.

Bolded (3): This is due to the dominant judging function going down different paths. This is where you must learn to rely on Trust...they care just as much as you do.

Bolded (4): Due to different strengths and weaknesses we can rely on each other to much in areas we CAN become competent at, just not our strong "care" spot. We can fall back into a part of our weakness that we really don't need, so its not a fully co-independence due to personality differences, but preference differences.

This is socionics relations which is similar type wise, but does have its differences

Most important recommendation...SOMEONE has to keep reaching out. Either person, and the other has to respond. Like Duals, its not hard to get past problems if you can get past a small handful of personal issues that arise within you. When both do this I can see it as a very good relationship.

 

[that's not my name]

[MENTION=12103]Poki[/MENTION] has said he tests high in Te, too. He explained it better than I could and you could also do a 'type me' thread for lots more info.

I'm more big on Enneagram + MBTI to flesh personality out. I haven't gotten much into Socionics since it works on what I see as a completely different system. Not comparable but related to MBTI.

The problem I have with type me threads is that, just like with tests you can subconsciously manipulate them, even if you're not trying to. I would prefer to take random posts of mine which reflect my deepest thoughts or really paint a good picture of how I process things and have those be analyzed. But I'm pretty sure I'm an ISTP. I wonder whether Ti-Se can be mistaken for Te a lot, and with a well developed (or someone hwo is well aware of their) Ni, that can start to look ENTJish or even INTJish.

I feel you on the socionics vs mbti split, but I like to use them together, I find that together they make the picture more detailed. I don't really know how enneagram fits in yet, I guess thats more about temperament in general so I guess it helps a little but I don't know enough about it. I definitely started with mbti as my base though, so I know what you mean, its a different way of thinking and it can be jarring at first.

 

[entropie]

ok "very warm" but thats enough, not that it gets hot !

 

[Poki]

The problem I have with type me threads is that, just like with tests you can subconsciously manipulate them, even if you're not trying to. I would prefer to take random posts of mine which reflect my deepest thoughts or really paint a good picture of how I process things and have those be analyzed. But I'm pretty sure I'm an ISTP. I wonder whether Ti-Se can be mistaken for Te a lot, and with a well developed (or someone hwo is well aware of their) Ni, that can start to look ENTJish or even INTJish.

I feel you on the socionics vs mbti split, but I like to use them together, I find that together they make the picture more detailed. I don't really know how enneagram fits in yet, I guess thats more about temperament in general so I guess it helps a little but I don't know enough about it. I definitely started with mbti as my base though, so I know what you mean, its a different way of thinking and it can be jarring at first.

I test in order of Ti -> Te -> Se -> Ni. I believe Ti combined with a heavy Se and Ni can easily appear Te.

I get along very well with INTJ, biggest key is differences in drive.

I read my opposite/negative is ENTJ. I have issues with strong Te NTJ types. I tend to blow them off and follow my own path. They go to concept backed by detail, I go by reality backed by concept.

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ok "very warm" but thats enough, not that it gets hot !

lol...

 

[entropie]

lol ?

13 years of infp experience and I get loled at...

you know thats the difference between entps and istps, you talk, we do

 

[that's not my name]

you know thats the difference between entps and istps, you talk, we do

LOL. Yes you do (come to an istp thread and talk)

I test in order of Ti -> Te -> Se -> Ni. I believe Ti combined with a heavy Se and Ni can easily appear Te.

I get along very well with INTJ, biggest key is differences in drive.

I read my opposite/negative is ENTJ. I have issues with strong Te NTJ types. I tend to blow them off and follow my own path. They go to concept backed by detail, I go by reality backed by concept.

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lol...

Yeah, ENTJs are a little overwhelming imo. I forget how I test other than 80% of the time its Ti first 20% of the time its Ni first.

 

[entropie]

LOL. Yes you do (come to an istp thread and talk)

I like your stuborness tho. Makes you dumb like me

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

The problem I have with type me threads is that, just like with tests you can subconsciously manipulate them, even if you're not trying to. I would prefer to take random posts of mine which reflect my deepest thoughts or really paint a good picture of how I process things and have those be analyzed. But I'm pretty sure I'm an ISTP. I wonder whether Ti-Se can be mistaken for Te a lot, and with a well developed (or someone hwo is well aware of their) Ni, that can start to look ENTJish or even INTJish.

I feel you on the socionics vs mbti split, but I like to use them together, I find that together they make the picture more detailed. I don't really know how enneagram fits in yet, I guess thats more about temperament in general so I guess it helps a little but I don't know enough about it. I definitely started with mbti as my base though, so I know what you mean, its a different way of thinking and it can be jarring at first.

I understand. The deepest thoughts reflected...I like that. I agree.

I think Ti/Fe can look very Te and even Fi, when Ni is filtered in.

If you want to know anything Enneagram related I give a decent crash course. Similarly, you can teach me what you know of Socionics because I need the footnotes.

 

[Poki]

lol ?

13 years of infp experience and I get loled at...

you know thats the difference between entps and istps, you talk, we do

Lmao...your hilarious

 

[Cloudpatrol]

Yes at bolded, but at the end of the day from my experience we can completely Trust the other due to what we both hold in high regard. INFPs are some of the types I can pretty much let go of any so called "perceived" issues and just trust and not be let down often at all. We just walk different paths, though care about the same things which is why we end up in similar destinations.

Yep. Agree whole-souled Pokes. I often am thinking "what???" when my STP friend starts off - but RESPECT him immensely & trust in his process and world-scape. Better for knowing him for sure. It warms my wee heart to hear you can let go and trust with INFP's. Mutual admiration club Brah

 

[Star Atlas]

[MENTION=12103]Poki[/MENTION] has said he tests high in Te, too. He explained it better than I could and you could also do a 'type me' thread for lots more info.

I'm more big on Enneagram + MBTI to flesh personality out. I haven't gotten much into Socionics since it works on what I see as a completely different system. Not comparable but related to MBTI.

The rep I sent got me thinking that perhaps there is something worth investigating here.

Basically that Ji-doms experience their inferior Je expressions as a bastard child version born of a threesome that Ji had with it's Je counterpart and a high class escort. It would be curious then to see if the converse holds true for Je doms; that their Ji inferior expresses with harder or softer edge than might seem logical. (Although I could see a case being made that since it's internalized and a baby form, that it may not be as morphed.)

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

The rep I sent got me thinking that perhaps there is something worth investigating here.

Basically that Ji-doms experience their inferior Je expressions as a bastard child version born of a threesome that Ji had with it's Je counterpart and a high class escort. It would be curious then to see if the converse holds true for Je doms; that their Ji inferior expresses with harder or softer edge than might seem logical. (Although I could see a case being made that since it's internalized and a baby form, that it may not be as morphed.)

I'm picking up what you're putting down.

I would say, yes. Same applies.

When all is said and done, everyone grows toward the middle. Which is where understanding is.