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The title speaks for itself. What does empathy mean to you and what kind of role does it play in your life?
To me empathy always simply meant; being able to 'feel' what someone else is feeling, to feel sad when they are feeling sad, to feel hurt when they are, to understand (emotionally?) what they are going through etc,...
I always said that I was an empathetic person. Until I realized that I'm actually not that empathic at all, or at least not more than average and for feelings... Yeah no, after a few experiences I can say that I probably don't always feel that much for other people.
I liked to portray myself that way because it is seen as a positive trait. (Though I really believed that I was emotionally empathic) Or I can at least say that I have been misusing the word 'empathy' for a while now. (And I believe many people do this too)
Until I learnt about the different types of empathy. Now before you continue reading. Just answer what empathy means to you. When did you feel/were you empathic for the last time?
What does it mean to be an empath? What does it feel like?
What makes you empathic towards someone? 'How' do you feel what they are feeling? What do you feel, exactly? How does it influence you reactions and your way of thinking?
Any examples, a (short) story of how you would describe your 'relationship' with empathy?
Do you think people really are that empathic? Can they feel your pain?
When you are in pain (emotionally) how do you like others to react? What kind of reactions do you dislike?
(Note; you don't have to answer all these questions of course. They are just 'indicators'. Feel free to write whatever you want. Or add some questions too. My last question would be -after you've written down your own story- to read about the different types of empathy. Which one fits you the most, is it a mix,... What kind of empathy do you like to see in others? )
I just think it's very interesting to read how everyone experiences this. Since I personally think that I don't feel a lot, or not as much as other people seem to (or maybe they are all exaggerating too, I really have my suspicions about this, since I have seen a lot of self-proclaimed 'empathic' people say the most idiotic/harmful stuff). I can recognize it when someone is in pain, I like helping others, to listen to their problems. But it never occurred to me that thinking "Awh crap, that must be so painful," isn't the same as actually feeling their pain/sadness. :')
And by saying that. I do actually believe that many people mistake thinking "that must be so painful" for empathic feeling. But I could be wrong about this of course.
Different types of empathy:
-Cognitive Empathy
Cognitive empathy, also known as ‘perspective-taking’ is not really what most of us would think of as empathy at all.
Cognitive empathy is basically being able to put yourself into someone else’s place, and see their perspective.
It is a useful skill, particularly in negotiations for example, or for managers. It enables you to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, but without necessarily engaging with their emotions. It does not, however, really fit with the definition of empathy as ‘feeling with’, being a much more rational and logical process.
Effectively, cognitive empathy is ‘empathy by thought’, rather than by feeling.
A Dark Side to Cognitive Empathy
It is possible to show cognitive empathy without having any fellow-feeling or sympathy with it. It is fair to say that most of us would understand this fellow-feeling to be a key part of empathy.
Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence, notes in his blog that torturers would need to have good cognitive empathy to work out how best to hurt someone, but without having any sympathy towards them.
-Emotional Empathy
Emotional empathy is when you quite literally feel the other person’s emotions alongside them, as if you had ‘caught’ the emotions.
Emotional empathy is also known as ‘personal distress’ or ‘emotional contagion’. This is closer to the usual understanding of the word ‘empathy’, but more emotional.
Emotional empathy is good because it means that we can readily understand and feel other people’s emotions. This is vital for those in caring professions, such as doctors and nurses, to be able to respond to their patients appropriately. It also means that we can respond to friends and others when they are distressed.
Emotional empathy is bad, because it is possible to become overwhelmed by those emotions, and therefore unable to respond. This is known as empathy overload, and is explained in more detail in our page on Understanding Others. Those with a tendency to become overwhelmed need to work on their self-regulation, and particularly their self-control, so that they become better able to manage their own emotions.
Good self-control helps doctors and nurses to avoid possible burnout from empathising too much. There is a danger, however, that they can become ‘hardened’ and not respond appropriately. There have been several recent cases in the UK, such as in South Staffordshire, where nurses and others were accused of being uncaring. This may have been a possible result of over-protection against empathy overload.
-Compassionate Empathy
Finally, compassionate empathy is what we usually understand by empathy: feeling someone’s pain, and taking action to help.
The name, compassionate empathy, is consistent with what we usually understand by compassion. Like sympathy, compassion is about feeling concern for someone, but with an additional move towards action to mitigate the problem.
Compassionate empathy is the type of empathy that is usually most appropriate.
As a general rule, people who want or need your empathy don’t just need you to understand (cognitive empathy), and they certainly don’t need you just to feel their pain or, worse, to burst into tears alongside them (emotional empathy).
Instead, they need you to understand and sympathise with what they are going through and, crucially, either take, or help them to take, action to resolve the problem, which is compassionate empathy.
-Two Other Types of Empathy
Somatic empathy is defined as feeling someone else’s pain physically.
For example, if you see someone hurt, you too might feel physical pain. Anecdotally, identical twins sometimes report that they know when the other has been hurt, which might be an example of somatic empathy.
Spiritual empathy is defined as a direct connection with a ‘higher being’ or consciousness.
Now that I have thought about it... There is a certain type of empathy I feel very strongly. Named; vicarious embarrassment (secondhand, empathetic, or third party embarrassment). And sometimes not even because the person is embarrassed... No, because I think that what they are doing is embarrassing. Please stop, I am feeling awkward. x)
I hope this thread makes sense. Since I feel like it really doesn't anymore.
But I spend too much time on writing this post, it would be such a waste of my time to just delete all of this. I had a purpose when I started typing but I kind of lost it along the way, maybe you guys can find it.
To me empathy always simply meant; being able to 'feel' what someone else is feeling, to feel sad when they are feeling sad, to feel hurt when they are, to understand (emotionally?) what they are going through etc,...
I always said that I was an empathetic person. Until I realized that I'm actually not that empathic at all, or at least not more than average and for feelings... Yeah no, after a few experiences I can say that I probably don't always feel that much for other people.
I liked to portray myself that way because it is seen as a positive trait. (Though I really believed that I was emotionally empathic) Or I can at least say that I have been misusing the word 'empathy' for a while now. (And I believe many people do this too)
Until I learnt about the different types of empathy. Now before you continue reading. Just answer what empathy means to you. When did you feel/were you empathic for the last time?
What does it mean to be an empath? What does it feel like?
What makes you empathic towards someone? 'How' do you feel what they are feeling? What do you feel, exactly? How does it influence you reactions and your way of thinking?
Any examples, a (short) story of how you would describe your 'relationship' with empathy?
Do you think people really are that empathic? Can they feel your pain?
When you are in pain (emotionally) how do you like others to react? What kind of reactions do you dislike?
(Note; you don't have to answer all these questions of course. They are just 'indicators'. Feel free to write whatever you want. Or add some questions too. My last question would be -after you've written down your own story- to read about the different types of empathy. Which one fits you the most, is it a mix,... What kind of empathy do you like to see in others? )
I just think it's very interesting to read how everyone experiences this. Since I personally think that I don't feel a lot, or not as much as other people seem to (or maybe they are all exaggerating too, I really have my suspicions about this, since I have seen a lot of self-proclaimed 'empathic' people say the most idiotic/harmful stuff). I can recognize it when someone is in pain, I like helping others, to listen to their problems. But it never occurred to me that thinking "Awh crap, that must be so painful," isn't the same as actually feeling their pain/sadness. :')
And by saying that. I do actually believe that many people mistake thinking "that must be so painful" for empathic feeling. But I could be wrong about this of course.
Different types of empathy:
-Cognitive Empathy
Cognitive empathy, also known as ‘perspective-taking’ is not really what most of us would think of as empathy at all.
Cognitive empathy is basically being able to put yourself into someone else’s place, and see their perspective.
It is a useful skill, particularly in negotiations for example, or for managers. It enables you to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, but without necessarily engaging with their emotions. It does not, however, really fit with the definition of empathy as ‘feeling with’, being a much more rational and logical process.
Effectively, cognitive empathy is ‘empathy by thought’, rather than by feeling.
A Dark Side to Cognitive Empathy
It is possible to show cognitive empathy without having any fellow-feeling or sympathy with it. It is fair to say that most of us would understand this fellow-feeling to be a key part of empathy.
Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence, notes in his blog that torturers would need to have good cognitive empathy to work out how best to hurt someone, but without having any sympathy towards them.
-Emotional Empathy
Emotional empathy is when you quite literally feel the other person’s emotions alongside them, as if you had ‘caught’ the emotions.
Emotional empathy is also known as ‘personal distress’ or ‘emotional contagion’. This is closer to the usual understanding of the word ‘empathy’, but more emotional.
Emotional empathy is good because it means that we can readily understand and feel other people’s emotions. This is vital for those in caring professions, such as doctors and nurses, to be able to respond to their patients appropriately. It also means that we can respond to friends and others when they are distressed.
Emotional empathy is bad, because it is possible to become overwhelmed by those emotions, and therefore unable to respond. This is known as empathy overload, and is explained in more detail in our page on Understanding Others. Those with a tendency to become overwhelmed need to work on their self-regulation, and particularly their self-control, so that they become better able to manage their own emotions.
Good self-control helps doctors and nurses to avoid possible burnout from empathising too much. There is a danger, however, that they can become ‘hardened’ and not respond appropriately. There have been several recent cases in the UK, such as in South Staffordshire, where nurses and others were accused of being uncaring. This may have been a possible result of over-protection against empathy overload.
-Compassionate Empathy
Finally, compassionate empathy is what we usually understand by empathy: feeling someone’s pain, and taking action to help.
The name, compassionate empathy, is consistent with what we usually understand by compassion. Like sympathy, compassion is about feeling concern for someone, but with an additional move towards action to mitigate the problem.
Compassionate empathy is the type of empathy that is usually most appropriate.
As a general rule, people who want or need your empathy don’t just need you to understand (cognitive empathy), and they certainly don’t need you just to feel their pain or, worse, to burst into tears alongside them (emotional empathy).
Instead, they need you to understand and sympathise with what they are going through and, crucially, either take, or help them to take, action to resolve the problem, which is compassionate empathy.
-Two Other Types of Empathy
Somatic empathy is defined as feeling someone else’s pain physically.
For example, if you see someone hurt, you too might feel physical pain. Anecdotally, identical twins sometimes report that they know when the other has been hurt, which might be an example of somatic empathy.
Spiritual empathy is defined as a direct connection with a ‘higher being’ or consciousness.
Now that I have thought about it... There is a certain type of empathy I feel very strongly. Named; vicarious embarrassment (secondhand, empathetic, or third party embarrassment). And sometimes not even because the person is embarrassed... No, because I think that what they are doing is embarrassing. Please stop, I am feeling awkward. x)
And ok, before everyone starts to think that I am a coldhearted bitch. >:'( I do relate to compassionate and cognitive empathy (though the 'feeling pain' part is shallow and,... Yeah no, not going to explain all of that right now, or else I'll be writing over here for another hour again). But emotional empathy, not all too much. So that's something I am interested in, emotional empaths, show yourselves!
-And all the other ones too-
I hope this thread makes sense. Since I feel like it really doesn't anymore.
