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Trump vs. Biden

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ceecee said:
Oh hell no.
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On Saturday, she also swatted away criticism of the remarks she made at the opening of a Scientology church in Los Angeles a decade ago, saying she was trying to speak to “what I think all of us believe in — respect for another's views, to treat all people with respect, and to fight oppression wherever we find it.”
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Would she speak at a White Supremacist rally out of "respect for another's view"?

Trump campaign targets Bass amid speculation over Biden VP pick | TheHill
 
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Susan Rice's 'Benghazi baggage,' F-bombs would make her 'lightning rod' as Biden VP pick, writer claims | Fox News

"Her F-bombs are legend," he writes, and has rarely refrained from using other rude language or gestures when criticizing political opponents.

She once referred to Graham as a "piece of sh--," during a popular podcast, and once raised her middle finger to Richard Holbrooke, a former U.S. diplomat who died in 2010, Milbank recounts.
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Well, he is a piece of shit. Got a problem with a woman who tells it straight?
 
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Would anyone support Balkinization of the USA if Trump won again? Anyone else suspect some form of civil war regardless after the election?
 
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May I suggest Nkechi Amare Diallo for Biden's VP? Never heard of her? She's a former President of an NAACP chapter. Darn it, I messed up my post count.
 
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I am slowly but surely getting impression that the Dems are getting too overconfident over this (again). Yes they potentially can get quite a number of states but they are spreading themselves truly too thin. Especially since mild red states can quickly swing back due to a number of reasons/events. Georgia is almost surely a waste of money and resources. Texas beyond a little bit of roasting the situation and hoping for a miracle is also probably a waste. Iowa with exception of senate seat is probably also a waste in the terms of time and money (unless you go very aggressively with arguments). Similar could be with Arizona.


Therefore it would probably be smarter to throw all that money into Rust belt and secure overall victory there. Especially since with focusing there in talking points you can probably tilt Ohio in your direction. Plus NC and Florida are indeed worth of attention and are a decent back up, as we well as the states where you have a clear shoot (what overall is more than enough states). Therefore by going deeper into the red than this is likely to result with overextending. The problem with the polls is that they probably don't present rural areas too well as well as various "shenanigans" that are surely in play. Plus good chunk of the people probably doesn't want to say that they will vote red. Therefore at this point on every poll you should probably add another 3 to 5 points of red to get what is probably more realistic picture in the field.
 
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Virtual ghost said:
I am slowly but surely getting impression that the Dems are getting too overconfident over this (again). Yes they potentially can get quite a number of states but they are spreading themselves truly too thin. Especially since mild red states can quickly swing back due to a number of reasons/events. Georgia is almost surely a waste of money and resources. Texas beyond a little bit of roasting the situation and hoping for a miracle is also probably a waste. Iowa with exception of senate seat is probably also a waste in the terms of time and money (unless you go very aggressively with arguments). Similar could be with Arizona.


Therefore it would probably be smarter to throw all that money into Rust belt and secure overall victory there. Especially since with focusing there in talking points you can probably tilt Ohio in your direction. Plus NC and Florida are indeed worth of attention and are a decent back up, as we well as the states where you have a clear shoot (what overall is more than enough states). Therefore by going deeper into the red than this is likely to result with overextending. The problem with the polls is that they probably don't present rural areas too well as well as various "shenanigans" that are surely in play. Plus good chunk of the people probably doesn't want to say that they will vote red. Therefore at this point on every poll you should probably add another 3 to 5 points of red to get what is probably more realistic picture in the field.
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Though I can only say from a state level, the Dems are anything but overconfident. I would say the opposite.

Debbie Dingell Doesnt Believe the Polls - The Atlantic

Godfrey: Clinton never had the kind of lead over Trump that Biden does right now. And the president’s response to the pandemic and the George Floyd protests doesn’t seem to have endeared him to voters.

Dingell: I don’t trust polling. I don’t believe that Biden is 16 points up in Michigan; that’s a bullshit poll, and it’s the same people who said Hillary had it in the bag. I worry about polling suppressing votes. I don’t want anybody to think their vote doesn’t matter.

I’m seeing lots of Trump signs start to pop up. There are some very complicated issues that Trump is playing to divide this country. He is energizing his base, and we have to energize ours. If the election were held today, Joe Biden would win, but I don’t know what’s going to happen between now and November.
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This is the opinion most Dems hold. I do too, why would I believe the polls? Plus the GOP will cheat anywhere and everywhere and the shenanigans are in rural and urban areas (Louisville, KY, all 67 counties in PA). They must be worried however, I wouldn't discount many of the small wins you hear little about way down ballot by Dems. And don't forget the USPS situation although it went well in Michigan as far as the primary on Tuesday. I make an appointment and put our ballots directly into the clerks hand. That's how little I trust the people involved in the voting mechanism. As far as signs go, I live in a super red area and I'm seeing more signs for Dems than I ever have. Not just Biden, all of them. Down to the state district races. I've never seen that before around here.

Remember AOC and Rashida Talib were just outliers, this is a message the GOP and the Dems have used and it appears to be backfiring. Also, you have no idea at all how much absolute fury there is over the federal response to COVID. Especially when Trump just blows off the dead Americans to their face. That combined with administration incompetence and the corruption, even lifelong Republicans are saying fuck this guy. That may not be enough but it's more than I have seen previously.
 

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