The Murder of George Floyd & Subsequent Protests/Riots

[Jaguar]

Having intercourse with an underage female: Third-degree sexual assault. By all means, shoot him 7 times for it. And every man on the planet who has done the same.

Will there be any frat boys left?

 

[anticlimatic]

Virtue signalling won't save your buisness from the woke mob.

 

[Jaguar]

I don't condone it, but I understand it. That's more than I can say for you - hell, you don't even try.

 

[anticlimatic]

State of Emergency -- Wisconsin Gov. Declares after Kenosha Riots, Doubles National Guard | National Review

Around 30 businesses in Kenosha, a city of 100,000, were destroyed in Monday night’s riots according to the Associated Press. Police have not released details on the Sunday shooting that sparked the riots, except that officers were responding to a domestic violence call. Jacob Blake, the man shot by police, will likely be paralyzed from the waist down, his father said Tuesday.

“We didn’t do anything to anybody,” commented the owner of a furniture store burned down in the riots. “Why do we deserve it?”

Racism solved. Keep up the good work (handing Trump the election on a silver platter).

https://civiqs.com/results/black_lives_matter?annotations=true&uncertainty=true&zoomIn=true

A week after George Floyd 53 percent of people supported BLM, and 28 percent opposed it. Since then, as cities have burned, support has steadily dropped to a current 49 percent while opposition has steadily risen to 38 percent.

 

[Jonny]

Yes, remember everyone, you must reelect Donald Trump to ensure that the stuff happening while he is president doesn’t continue to happen...oh, and remember, Donald Trump was also actually good for COVID because his supporters would have not been as cooperative with a Democratic president...or so I’ve heard.

 

[ceecee]

Yes, remember everyone, you must reelect Donald Trump to ensure that the stuff happening while he is president doesn’t continue to happen...oh, and remember, Donald Trump was also actually good for COVID because his supporters would have not been as cooperative with a Democratic president...or so I’ve heard.

See this is the part that makes me laugh. If these protests/BLM are so unsupported and hated that it's going to get Trump reelected - why all the rage about it? Especially if one lives nowhere near where this is happening. Current Trump supporters should be overjoyed about it because to them - their law and order message is ringing loud and clear.

All social change movements start out unpopular. However, social change and progress wins 100% of the time. Don't believe me?

Roger Goodell: 'I wish we had listened earlier' to Colin Kaepernick's anthem protest - Sports Illustrated

“I wish we had listened earlier, Kaep, to what you were kneeling about and what you were trying to bring attention to." Goodell said. "We had invited him in several times to have the conversation, to have the dialogue. I wish we had the benefit of that, we never did. We would have benefited from that, absolutely.”

This is how social progress wins. Every time. It is normalized and corporatized and then it is legislated. Just like MLK, who is held up as one of the greatest Americans ever.


And once again for the people in the back - human rights are not political. If you politicize them, you are the problem. And the more shootings, the more violence against peaceful people started by the police (stfu, I've seen and experienced this myself), makes that call for defunding louder and louder.

 

[Jaguar]

Rambo decided to put on some purple/blue gloves and start shooting people in Kenosha:

Video and pics here:

Jacob Blake shooting: Two shot dead at Kenosha BLM protests | Daily Mail Online

Edit:

By Associated Press
Published: Aug. 26, 2020 at 6:18 AM EDT|Updated: 23 minutes ago
KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — Illinois police arrested a juvenile Wednesday after two people were shot to death during another night of Black Lives Matter protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Commander Norman Johnson of the Antioch Police Department said the suspect — a young man whose name was not released because he is under 18 — was arrested on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide.

Antioch is about 15 miles from Kenosha, which has seen three straight nights of unrest since the police shooting of a Black man, Jacob Blake.

Two people were killed Tuesday night in a possible vigilante attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.

Thank fucking christ the asshole was picked up.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

This thing about the 17 year old kid is making me sick.

I don't exactly trust "the other 98%" to be fair, but I've seen the video. They were actually thanking white guys for showing up with machine guns.


17-year-old Antioch boy charged with murder after 2 fatally shot, 1 injured in Kenosha

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Yes, remember everyone, you must reelect Donald Trump to ensure that the stuff happening while he is president doesn’t continue to happen...oh, and remember, Donald Trump was also actually good for COVID because his supporters would have not been as cooperative with a Democratic president...or so I’ve heard.

I'm struggling to understand exactly what Trump succeeded in getting them to do, precaution-wise.

 

[Jaguar]

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[Jonny]

I'm struggling to understand exactly what Trump succeeded in getting them to do, precaution-wise.

Oh, I wouldn't know. But apparently some people here think so. See post from another user in the Coronavirus thread:

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[Jonny]

Let me say as I've always said and I will always continue to say that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating.

I'm still convinced that non-violence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice.

I feel that violence will only create more social problems than they will solve. That in a real sense it is impractical for the Negro to even think of mounting a violent revolution in the United States.

So I will continue to condemn riots and continue to say to my brothers and sisters that this is not the way,
continue to affirm that there is another way, but at the same time it is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engaged in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots.

I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots.

But in the final analysis a riot is the language of the unheard.

What is it that America has failed to hear?

It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo, than about justice, equality, and humanity.

And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay.

And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again.

Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.

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[FemMecha]

I agree with this, but would like to add the point that the recent riots expressed the whole range of humanity. There were hundreds of thousands of different moral actions. There were some that fall into the description of MLK here. There were also atrocities committed. There were heroic actions. I see the riots as something to neither condemn or defend. They were cause-and-effect of a history of the inhumanity of humans. I see it as not placing a single moral judgment on a complex event, but something that we have a moral imperative to understand. One cannot condemn or commend the effect without understanding the cause.

 

[Jaguar]

With the media and Democratic establishment making excuses for rioters, looters and violent criminals, Republicans don't need Americans to watch the RNC. They just need them to see what's happening in Kenosha.

That's right, Ben. Americans do need to see what's happening in Kenosha:

 

[anticlimatic]

Thank god I don't live in one of these Democrat hellscapes. Poor guy.

White House says Evers turned down federal help for Kenosha protests

But at least he virtue signaled. That's the important part (for his reelection).

 

[Jaguar]

Trump announced on Twitter that he is sending federal assistance to Wisconsin, and that Gov. Tony Evers has accepted it. Since it came in a tweet, who knows. But someone needs to get up there and stop right-wing extremists coming to Kenosha from other states to shoot people in the streets.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Oh, I wouldn't know. But apparently some people here think so. See post from another user in the Coronavirus thread:

Yeah, I got that you were being sarcastic. I was more or less agreeing with you, and expounding on that agreement. I struggle to see it.

The notion that Hillary would have shut everything down and enforced social distancing about the same time as Trump - and it's worth pointing out that he DIDN'T, the Dem governors had to take matters into their own hands and mandate things which Trump challenged and tried to discredit.....but even if he had been the one to start enforcing precautions - is a delusional pipe dream. Hillary wouldn't have dismissed the science until reality gave her no choice (and even if she had, she wouldn't have continued devoting her energy to gaslighting and blame-deflecting and stoking partisan fires to distract from her shitty performance once reality gave her no choice). Because she's not brain-damaged from a lifetime of malignant narcissism and she can tell the difference between discerning reality and dictating it. You can't bully science into cooperating, and this clearly goes over Trump's head. She wouldn't have dismissed all the scientists and insisted it would "disappear, like a miracle" - right up until it clearly, clearly wouldn't. Trump would certainly still be a strong presence spreading conspiracy crap with all the other extreme right shitheads if he lost in 2016, but the bulk of fatalities would be in red areas that listened to them. New York, New Jersey, and Chicago would have taken precautions sooner, and they wouldn't have had to fight the federal government for supplies. And she wouldn't have appointed a colossal shithead like Jared to be in charge of the latter.

And there's a whole lot of periphery stuff, like she wouldn't have publicly agreed with conspiracy theories - that doctors were attributing far more deaths to covid than was true - that downplayed the seriousness (which led to people believing the virus wasn't as dangerous as it actually was), all to cover up how badly she'd fucked up her initial response. While the usual conspiracy jackasses certainly would have been sharing it, and their rabid fan base would gobble it up - again, it would have effected red areas way more. Under Trump's leadership, it eventually got to them anyway.

 

[anticlimatic]

But someone needs to get up there and stop right-wing extremists coming to Kenosha from other states to shoot people in the streets.

You still got it amigo.

 

[Jaguar]

You still got it amigo.

You don't.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Anyway I don't think anyone had mentioned the Idaho protests yet? Unmasked Protesters Push Past Police Into Idaho Lawmakers' Session Some of them were armed. It's not as strong a contrast as the white kid who opened fire on a crowd with a machine gun and left the incident without a scratch on him, but still.

Where's all the aggressive force to maintain "LAW AND ORDER" when it's Trump's base?