The AntiChrist

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

Something I came across online...

ONWARD CHRISTIAN CABINET: TRUMP'S WHITE HOUSE PICKS ARE A CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT

"Donald Trump may give evangelical Christians a level of POWER AND INFLUENCE on American life that they never had before."

Friends, it's as if we are actually reading prophecy straight from the Word of God above! It's amazing to see what is happening today! What have God's people been saying for the past 100 years, due to our blessed understanding of Bible prophecy? God's people have been declaring that the Protestant churches of America would unite with the Catholic Church and that they would receive 'POWER' from the state, and there would be a uniting of church and state in America to form an image of the Papal beast in America.

And what is to follow? The call for the Sunday law will follow. And with the church leaders and civil leaders getting on board with this climate agenda, the call for a Sunday rest law will grow even stronger!

"The church appeals to the strong arm of civil power, and, in this work, papists and Protestants unite. As the movement for Sunday enforcement becomes more bold and decided, the law will be invoked against commandment keepers." (E.White, Great Controversy, p.607)

The mainstream churches of America are so focused on Israel in the Middle East for the fulfillment of end time prophecy, they fail to realize what is going on and will themselves fulfill what is stated in Revelation 13 concerning the image of the beast. The Jesuits who have infiltrated virtually all the churches have deceived them and lulled them to sleep. Hence they have all become part of Babylon.

Onward Christian cabinet: Trump’s White House picks are a Christmas gift for the religious right - U.S. News - Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

 

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if one wanted to apply prophecy to trump, i would think this to be the most likely...

The King Who Exalts Himself
36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.[d]

40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at[f] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.
Daniel 11:36-45

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

Lol... socialism is form of fascism? really?

Well, the word fascism came into fashion to describe the Nazis. The word "Nazi" is an abbreviation for the word "Nationalsozialist". The full name of the political party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party. The Kremlin didn't like the taint on the word "socialist" so they told everyone to refer call the Nazis "fascist."

Here's some more: Are fascists socialists? Are socialists fascists? – AgainstCronyCapitalism.org I didn't actually read all this, but I like the first sentence.

 

[Thalassa]

Something I came across online...

Nah.

 

[Thalassa]

Obama was created in a lab at Area 51. He was the first of the animal-human hybrids. He can actually walk on water if he wants to, because they gave him special feet and his bones are light. Sometimes, when he's walking around, he just takes off his shoes and runs across a lake or puddle or whatever water's around. Not many people see it cause he goes so fast.

I think if you lived in middle America and were living a different life, you might see things more like i do.

Well since I'm originally from West Virginia, am not a friend to Obama because of TPP, pseudo-environmentalism, and liberal elitism ( a la Gwen Paltrow), and spent the last five years reading the enlightened but different intellect of the American Conservative, and spent the last year or two sympathizing with smart right wingers who voted for Gary Johnson who I went to high school with in North Carolina, pardon me if I still don't see that as a reason to support Trump. Many of my Christian conservative friends liked Rubio or Cruz, and I LIKE people in middle America who are real conservatives - as in they reject the racism and sexism of Trump and do things like go out and measure the groundwater pollution caused to their communities by factory farms - I can't accept your excuse. Many of my friends in North Carolina woke up after election day telling their children racism was wrong, and prayed for a better world.

The Bush administration has condemned Trumps views on the environment. Along with 99 percent of the world's scientists, liberals, and non-conservative, non-liberal random people. .so I really don't accept what you are saying. One insightful contributor to the American Conservative called Trumps campaign the denigrating of the intellectual conservatives and Trump is a joke in comparison to Teddy Roosevelt.

 

[Thalassa]

[MENTION=6877]Thalassa[/MENTION] I'd also like to add, that imo, socialism is a form of fascism. Some of the crappiest places in the world are socialist countries, true hell-holes. Socialists create hellholes, and ye shall know them by their fruits. Therefore, the antichrist is more likely to be a socialist than a capitalist.

Ok. You're a smart lady but I doubt you ever took political science or went to college. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both right of center. Democratic socialism is also not autocratic socialism. Ronald Reagan is more similar to Bernie Sanders than Trump. I'm honestly sad for people like you who believe this nonsense.

Trump has violated the constitution numerous times. This is the ammunition for both Democrats AND Republicans. He's violated freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, and has approved of torture, all while displaying an emotional and impulsive face great for entertainment or sports, but wholly inadequate to the US presidency. Obama approved some healthcare?

 

[Thalassa]

Well, the word fascism came into fashion to describe the Nazis. The word "Nazi" is an abbreviation for the word "Nationalsozialist". The full name of the political party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party. The Kremlin didn't like the taint on the word "socialist" so they told everyone to refer call the Nazis "fascist."

Here's some more: Are fascists socialists? Are socialists fascists? – AgainstCronyCapitalism.org I didn't actually read all this, but I like the first sentence.

No fascism described Benito Mussolini, who was a right wing leader who idealized race/ethnicity, masculinity, big business and organized religion.

 

[Thalassa]

if one wanted to apply prophecy to trump, i would think this to be the most likely...

The King Who Exalts Himself
36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.[d]

40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at[f] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.
Daniel 11:36-45

I was raised in a conservative Christian family. My staid ISTJ grandad wasn't big on "the apocalypse" (thank God for his reason, though I disliked his regimented thinking in other areas, like thinking gays were contrary to natural law, because we now know homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom) ...but he was very smart. He didn't even buy the crap America was selling, I would be tempted to name him INTJ had he not taken such great pleasure in planting the land, fixing cars and educating children ...very Sensory ways of being. ..he was even a civil engineer versus something more abstract. ..he was just smart.

But this is where I grew up, in a time in a place, where I had Biblical education and also the benefit of modern perspectives, and the theatrics of the Omen series really personify the charmed, wealthy, and political childhood of the antichrist. Film sometimes communicates a very general concept which mere reading makes too specific or abstract in reading. The antichrist is a child of wealth and privilege.

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

Ok. You're a smart lady but I doubt you ever took political science or went to college.

I've got a Bachelor of Science and a Master of Science. I don't have any student loans, so I didn't need to vote for Bernie Sanders. Since Trump's won, I won't have to pay your student loans either!

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both right of center. Democratic socialism is also not autocratic socialism. Ronald Reagan is more similar to Bernie Sanders than Trump. I'm honestly sad for people like you who believe this nonsense.

Trump has violated the constitution numerous times. This is the ammunition for both Democrats AND Republicans. He's violated freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, and has approved of torture, all while displaying an emotional and impulsive face great for entertainment or sports, but wholly inadequate to the US presidency. Obama approved some healthcare?

I feel like you're too angry and mean to listen to be reasonable at this time. We'll talk when you've calmed down.

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

[MENTION=6877]Thalassa[/MENTION] I'd also like to add, that imo, socialism is a form of fascism. Some of the crappiest places in the world are socialist countries, true hell-holes. Socialists create hellholes, and ye shall know them by their fruits. Therefore, the antichrist is more likely to be a socialist than a capitalist.

It seems to me that totalitarianism and authoritarianism breeds fascism. Which, left or right can inhabit, if given enough power in their extremes.

We have seen this in Communist (Left) countries as well as Nationalistic (Right) ones.

Power, greed and corruption do not have ideological preferences. At least not to me. I've seen the worst of the best and the best of the worst.

 

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I was raised in a conservative Christian family. My staid ISTJ grandad wasn't big on "the apocalypse" (thank God for his reason, though I disliked his regimented thinking in other areas, like thinking gays were contrary to natural law, because we now know homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom) ...but he was very smart. He didn't even buy the crap America was selling, I would be tempted to name him INTJ had he not taken such great pleasure in planting the land, fixing cars and educating children ...very Sensory ways of being. ..he was even a civil engineer versus something more abstract. ..he was just smart.

But this is where I grew up, in a time in a place, where I had Biblical education and also the benefit of modern perspectives, and the theatrics of the Omen series really personify the charmed, wealthy, and political childhood of the antichrist. Film sometimes communicates a very general concept which mere reading makes too specific or abstract in reading. The antichrist is a child of wealth and privilege.

we have had an active anti-christ for close to two thousand years... the other word for it is "pope"... this has been a common belief of protestant denominations historically (and in my mind is the only view that makes biblical sense)... having the anti-christ walking about doesn't mean "this is the end"... there is an atmosphere of tension worldwide... i think that the feeling of tension is comparable to the one that preceded wwII (based upon sylvia plath's descriptions of the time period)... does the atmosphere seem like it could be a second coming scenario? yes, but there have been many times that lots of people have thought that, such as the great disappointment... speaking of the great disappointment, daniel is the best evidence that this time may be quite close to "the end"...

 

[Poki]

Donald Trump's victory was predicted by Nostradamus who said it would bring about the end of the world, say conspiracy theorists

I saw this, then thought, hang on, 'trumpet' & Trump only works in the English translation of this French piece alleging to have predicted the 2016 result some 400 years ago..

So I went to look for that original and found;
Google Translate
The original.
Nostradamus avait prédit l'élection de Trump il y a 400 ans

Thats not possible, all conspiracy theorists are on Trumps side

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

Mabus looks like Suddam in the mirror which could be Saddam Hussein who was hung under a shooting star and they say the third anti Christ dies and after their death, the world goes to sh*t.

 

[Thalassa]

we have had an active anti-christ for close to two thousand years... the other word for it is "pope"... this has been a common belief of protestant denominations historically (and in my mind is the only view that makes biblical sense)... having the anti-christ walking about doesn't mean "this is the end"... there is an atmosphere of tension worldwide... i think that the feeling of tension is comparable to the one that preceded wwII (based upon sylvia plath's descriptions of the time period)... does the atmosphere seem like it could be a second coming scenario? yes, but there have been many times that lots of people have thought that, such as the great disappointment... speaking of the great disappointment, daniel is the best evidence that this time may be quite close to "the end"...

Ah yes, it is a great disappointment that Americans are stupid. Jesus would have called them "unwise" or something nicer, but yes the rest of us find it to be a great disappointment.

Just remember Jews are more likely to produce geniuses before you speak again. Because you shouldn't. Shhh. That's Biblical (but not constitutional).

 

[Thalassa]

I've got a Bachelor of Science and a Master of Science. I don't have any student loans, so I didn't need to vote for Bernie Sanders. Since Trump's won, I won't have to pay your student loans either!



I feel like you're too angry and mean to listen to be reasonable at this time. We'll talk when you've calmed down.

Look, a Bachelor's degree doesn't mean you aren't stupid. Even before I went to college, I realized some people who had, weren't all there. I didn't realize you were so stupid. We will talk when you have calmed down? The fact that you even would say such a thing makes you beneath me (Trump is a moron, I worked for years to pay for college, but I knew last night when some idiot was going on by Indian accents that I as a liberal actually valued personal responsibility over whining, but I rode the Great Space Coaster when I was four, I'm the elect who loved the 80s without being a capitalist moron.)


Seriously though, omg, I watch these movies on Netflix like hahaha. What is your master of science? It's not an A.S...it's specific, like physics, or biology, you aas hole.

 

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Ah yes, it is a great disappointment that Americans are stupid. Jesus would have called them "unwise" or something nicer, but yes the rest of us find it to be a great disappointment.

Just remember Jews are more likely to produce geniuses before you speak again. Because you shouldn't. Shhh. That's Biblical (but not constitutional).

everything about this reply is confusing... so, do you know what i meant by the great disappointment? it is a shame that people are "foolish", but i am more or less certain that it is a human trait, and not an american one... what do jews, geniuses, the constitution, and what i said have in common? i can't find a link between these things to follow... i shouldn't speak again, i shouldn't produce genius jews, or i shouldn't think about the (unproven in my mind) increased odds of them scoring well on an "xNTX" biased test?

 

[Thalassa]

everything about this reply is confusing... so, do you know what i meant by the great disappointment? it is a shame that people are "foolish", but i am more or less certain that it is a human trait, and not an american one... what do jews, geniuses, the constitution, and what i said have in common? i can't find a link between these things to follow... i shouldn't speak again, i shouldn't produce genius jews, or i shouldn't think about the (unproven in my mind) increased odds of them scoring well on an "xNTX" biased test?

Mmhmm you guys are dumb, I can't think of anything else that follows.

 

[Thalassa]

everything about this reply is confusing... so, do you know what i meant by the great disappointment? it is a shame that people are "foolish", but i am more or less certain that it is a human trait, and not an american one... what do jews, geniuses, the constitution, and what i said have in common? i can't find a link between these things to follow... i shouldn't speak again, i shouldn't produce genius jews, or i shouldn't think about the (unproven in my mind) increased odds of them scoring well on an "xNTX" biased test?

Oh ha ha ha. .I never said people shouldnt produce genius jews, but QUITE the opposite, I never told people to not think about the unproven or test NT...quite the opposite. See I think you guys are fucking idiots, and I tell you not to speak again because you say profoundly ungodly stupid things, ...there are so many stupid people on Typology Central it makes my head hurt....oh my God...that's called sarcasm...this forum has sunk...so ...low.


I actually thought you were a smarter person and appealed to you, but now I know you are crazy, like 95% of the people here.


I'll be ok. I know a master's degree isn't just "of science" and I don't think excessively about "the great disappointment"...I'll live to talk about Ronald Reagan and laugh about it, because I already do, and truly smart people are already there. And we are already vegan. When we are like Laura Palmer we just listen to 50s Christmas music.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

 

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Oh ha ha ha. .I never said people shouldnt produce genius jews, but QUITE the opposite, I never told people to not think about the unproven or test NT...quite the opposite. See I think you guys are fucking idiots, and I tell you not to speak again because you say profoundly ungodly stupid things, ...there are so many stupid people on Typology Central it makes my head hurt....oh my God...that's called sarcasm...this forum has sunk...so ...low.


I actually thought you were a smarter person and appealed to you, but now I know you are crazy, like 95% of the people here.


I'll be ok. I know a master's degree isn't just "of science" and I don't think excessively about "the great disappointment"...I'll live to talk about Ronald Reagan and laugh about it, because I already do, and truly smart people are already there. And we are already vegan. When we are like Laura Palmer we just listen to 50s Christmas music.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

i have no idea what this talk about a master's degree has to do with me... mentioning the great disappointment isn't a sign of obsession... i didn't think any of those things were what you meant, i was listing absurd examples to show how little sense i made of what you said... anyhow, when i see things that seem absurd to me on the internet, i just scroll past them... the things i have been saying aren't any more absurd than speculating that trump is the anti-christ (the subject of the thread)... i have been hearing "is the new president the anti-christ?" for at least twenty years... the protestant church first named the pope the anti-christ in the days of martin luther... i have no idea why it is easier to resort to calling me an idiot than explain the issue you are having with my words...

and for the record, i find you pleasant...

post script:

the article i linked claims it started as early as the eleventh century... i just knew it wasn't a new fad...

post post script:

wait... i was looking at your signature... are you upset because you are catholic? i am not trying to be offensive... i was raised a seventh day adventist, and i am not a practicing christian... i am not trying to be disrespectful of your beliefs, i am merely speaking of the way i was taught... i try to be more sensitive about these things when i am speaking to catholics... i have a good deal of respect for some members of your church, and very little for it's head... anyhow, i apologize if you felt like i was attacking your beliefs... maybe i should have been more careful in how i spoke about this...

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

I nominate Joe Biden for AntiChrist