The AntiChrist

[prplchknz]

What? Damnit, I wanted to be the whore and ride around on the beast. That would be epic! But I don't want to give birth to the antichrist. Shit, I thought I was doing that when I was taking a dump the other day. It BURNED. Damn hot sauce. Nah, I don't want that experience again. Maybe you're wrong. Maybe I could still be the whore without giving birth to the antichrist.

I didn't say all whores do.

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

I didn't say all whores do.

Ooooh, the antichrist's mom is just some random whore, not like The Whore of Babylon (which I know is just symbolic stuff). Okay, well i don't know that much about Obama's mom. Maybe she did have a shit ton of sex.

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.”

Bible says there are lots but the one spoken of in Revelation is different. AC will be given power, AC will be wounded and recover, in doing so gain great admiration. (Rev 13:3) He will also deny God and desire to be worshipped. Etc.

 

[Zangetshumody]

What? Damnit, I wanted to be the whore and ride around on the beast. That would be epic! But I don't want to give birth to the antichrist. Shit, I thought I was doing that when I was taking a dump the other day. It BURNED. Damn hot sauce. Nah, I don't want that experience again. Maybe you're wrong. Maybe I could still be the whore without giving birth to the antichrist.

[MENTION=5223]MDP2525[/MENTION]

This is the full definition of antichrist, its even repeated:
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


these next two scriptual references provide very important context:
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


"Time" itself is an important part of the Christian doctrine, in Revelations (which is a dream), does not add to the Christian doctrine, it merely gives a fuller account about all the things that happen in the full attainment of a complete salvation. This is why the 'end' is always close at hand, and none will know the day of its coming.

If you are waiting for Jesus Christ to physically appear in the clouds and come down and save you, then you are, technically, an antichrist according to:

1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

"is come" is the grammar of the present tense. And it's further part of the doctrine of salvation through participation in a communion that's seeking the Kingdom of God, structured by the gifts of its "members in particular", prophet (visions, dreams, prophecy), apostle, teacher, evangelist... Notice that Jung dealt with the dreams of his patients. The body of Christ is thus, a rudimentary form of therapeutic truth seeking, as to the condition of the soul, and unburdening it from any apparent manifestation of spiritual death (the loss of free will). Taking on the sins the world, and crucifying your flesh for those sins, is a process of self-realization, you take a sense of shared destiny with your environment, to arrive at the knowledge of what clarity truly is (the water). The intricate details of this massive undertaking, is symbolically depicted in the dream of Revelations, where archetypal forces are sharing in a drama that is being activated by the person who is seeking the Kingdom. The drama is from the perspective of "the world" (that is why it is so violent, because the world is not a real plane, its the illusion that the earth has been swallowed by, because of the spirit of the deceiver, and it changes it forms many many times in the process of precipitating the revelation of the victory of truth).

In revelations it says a lot of things that would probably rub "so called Christians" the wrong way:
Rev_10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

...the mystery of God should be finished

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

[MENTION=20790]Zangetshumody[/MENTION]

Yes. In your previous post, when you said AC was a spirit I knew what verse you were referencing. I agree with you that 'waiting for salvation' is missing the point.

You have given me good thinking points on aspects of Revelation. Thank you.

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

all presidents are the anti-christ

'cept Bill; he apparently married the AntiChrist...

 

[Kanra Jest]

'cept Bill; he apparently married the AntiChrist...

She's too sick to be the antichrist.

Speaking of which. If we try to place her she might fit better for the "Whore of Babylon"

 

[erg]

I'm not sure what has happened. Maybe the apocalypse has been averted, or maybe everything is falling into place by what has happened. Only time can tell.

 

[Thalassa]

Oh yeah I'm surprised this isn't already more of a thing. Donald Trump is the antichrist, because he was elected by false Christians in times where even scientists are saying the world be destroyed by "fire" to hasten the tribulation.

Donald Trump actually ran as a "Christian" and had a 84 percent "Evangelical Christian" voting base, all whist claiming he'd never done anything to ask God for forgiveness, which for all intents and purposes makes him Satanic.

I also find the veganism in Genesis and modern day Israel interesting.

The day after the election one of my Mexican Catholic friends simply posted "well now we know who the antichrist is."

 

[Thalassa]

Bible says there are lots but the one spoken of in Revelation is different. AC will be given power, AC will be wounded and recover, in doing so gain great admiration. (Rev 13:3) He will also deny God and desire to be worshipped. Etc.

He did deny God by saying he'd never done anything to ask for God's forgiveness. That was a huge moment. Anyone who wasn't earlier revulsed by his arrogance, vanity, cruelty, bigotry, lies and preposterous posing as identifying with the common man while being a wealthy heir, should have IMMEDIATELY heard alarm bells.

Some did, which is where the percentage of conservative Evangelicals who stood up to him after the primaries came from, and I've seen some heartening articles from conservative evangelical women who say they won't bear praise of Trumps hatred in their church.

He also demands worship, essentially, and his metaphorical whore mother could be corporate capitalism or the United States.

Either way, Trump is literally the opposite of Christ, and his statement about never needing forgiveness is extremely disturbing considering how many "religious" people voted for him.

The way he could potentially block progress against global warming is terrifying too. Biblically the next time the world is supposed to be destroyed is by fire.

I'm honestly taken aback by anyone with even pedestrian knowledge of the Christian Bible who hasnt at least thought of it offhand for thirty seconds.

 

[erg]

I've given this some thought and I think the "destroyed by fire" part of prophecy metaphorically means hatred. The world will be destroyed by extreme hatred.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

President Sam Neill hehe

 

[Thalassa]

I've given this some thought and I think the "destroyed by fire" part of prophecy metaphorically means hatred. The world will be destroyed by extreme hatred.

Or people are literally BURNING fossil fuels and the world is HEATING at an exponential rate. Pope Francis has declared global warming a sin, since it is anthropogenically caused.

The end times are also discussed in the book of Daniel, a prophet who was instructed by God to eat nothing but vegetables and was found to be stronger than the kings men. The new earth appears to be a violence free vegetarian paradise in Isaiah.

The thing about Donald Trump I gleaned from one of my yoga instructors, is that he not only inspired hatred and fear in his followers, but his opponents.

So the only thing to do is to try to stay centered in peace and do our best. As Mother Teresa once said, I will never go to a war protest, but to a rally of love and peace.

People have to forgive themselves for being afraid and angry in response to this evil man, and get to a more centered loving place, because it's the only way to fight him, antichrist, or mere harbinger.

(And to address why global warming would be "sinful"...it's because it's a combination of greed for resources, gluttony for meat, selfishness and obliviousness to the needs of the poor or people in other lands in general, and other things Francis addressed beautifully in Laudato Si...the poor and people in developing countries, as well as indigenous people in small island nations or close to the tropics are already experiencing some of the worst effects of global warming...some of the effects we have seen in the first world are the droughts in Australia...but scientists have estimated the oceans could be empty of fish by 2048, and this is part of the mass extinction...anyone who doesn't "believe" in global warming at this point is the equivalent of a spoiled child sitting in a corner with their cake and covering their ears and singing...even one of my science professors said the problem isn't the science, but the lack of ethics...and that includes false "greenwashing" on certain capitalist products from the liberal side as well as the conservative blatant oppression which has mislead the general public...the inconvenient truth is that Al Gore needs a smaller house...anyone who teaches resource conservation has an ethical duty to curb their own consumption, not relative to first world standards of wealth, but to realistic standards of global primary wealth).

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

There's something morally wrong with China.
Pope's possible deal with China would 'betray Christ', says Hong Kong cardinal | World news | The Guardian
So why would The Pope get involved?

Maybe these evil Globalists have a man on the inside working as Pope?.. I'm not Catholic but I miss Pope John Paul II...

China;
Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China - Wikipedia

The Falun Gong

These people dare practise this meditation and get thrown into prison for not worshipping the state.
Organ donation is highly taboo so China harvests organs from Falun Gong prisoners, often on trumped up charges.
The Falun Gong pass as a religion in China and thus are treated accordingly to suppress their message; and the Pope wants to go into business with China!? Hire a bunch of Chinese babies paid pennies a day or a slave labour camp to make pews for the Vatican..
If the Antichrist's symbol is an inverted religious symbol;

EU Facts | The Dark Roots of the “Brussels EU”

also:

We're all fucked.

 

[Thalassa]

For anyone bewildered, dismayed, worried, angry and a little too preoccupied with this event (or suggestion thereof) my offering is that maybe you would like to join me on an inspirational Advent Daniel Fast, something I'm posting about not only as a vegan project but as a spiritual means of coping with recent world events, leading up to the Christmas feast.

If not my feelings won't be hurt, but I think it may be a reasonable suggestion for some people who are tempted to turn to escape, anger, self destruction or despair, to stay focused on hope, love, and strength in this Christmas season.

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/member-blogs/83400-marmotinis-vegan-village-information-resources-recipes-rambling-26.html#post2759012

 

[Thalassa]

Ooooh, the antichrist's mom is just some random whore, not like The Whore of Babylon (which I know is just symbolic stuff). Okay, well i don't know that much about Obama's mom. Maybe she did have a shit ton of sex.

This is a terrible analogy. You seem educated enough that you wouldn't make a mistake like this. It would be a fine analogy if it was Clinton or McCain or Rubio, like ha ha look at us we're exaggerating a little because aside from a few social policies they're almost the same...but you can't compare someone who would have been considered a moderate conservative in the 70's (uh, that's Obama) to a fascist (Trump is already passing most checkpoints now that he's filling his cabinet with big bankers and big business, outside of the demagoguery and lies and racism he used to run his campaign, and his bizarre entanglement with Russia on which he says "nobody knows either way" just like he says about climate science, which is an effective technique for confusing the uneducated masses of unwashed who actually believe Brietbart is a reliable source of factual information, about things which are actually ...facts), and say they're equally likely to be the antichrist. Maybe this is funny to you, and I'm not exactly sure why, maybe you're lacking some information.

 

[Lia_kat]

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

This is a terrible analogy. You seem educated enough that you wouldn't make a mistake like this. It would be a fine analogy if it was Clinton or McCain or Rubio, like ha ha look at us we're exaggerating a little because aside from a few social policies they're almost the same...but you can't compare someone who would have been considered a moderate conservative in the 70's (uh, that's Obama) to a fascist (Trump is already passing most checkpoints now that he's filling his cabinet with big bankers and big business, outside of the demagoguery and lies and racism he used to run his campaign, and his bizarre entanglement with Russia on which he says "nobody knows either way" just like he says about climate science, which is an effective technique for confusing the uneducated masses of unwashed who actually believe Brietbart is a reliable source of factual information, about things which are actually ...facts), and say they're equally likely to be the antichrist. Maybe this is funny to you, and I'm not exactly sure why, maybe you're lacking some information.

Obama was created in a lab at Area 51. He was the first of the animal-human hybrids. He can actually walk on water if he wants to, because they gave him special feet and his bones are light. Sometimes, when he's walking around, he just takes off his shoes and runs across a lake or puddle or whatever water's around. Not many people see it cause he goes so fast.

I think if you lived in middle America and were living a different life, you might see things more like i do.

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

[MENTION=6877]Thalassa[/MENTION] I'd also like to add, that imo, socialism is a form of fascism. Some of the crappiest places in the world are socialist countries, true hell-holes. Socialists create hellholes, and ye shall know them by their fruits. Therefore, the antichrist is more likely to be a socialist than a capitalist.

 

[erg]

Lol... socialism is form of fascism? really?