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Random political thought thread.

The Cat

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This is part of what I mean about European "help". European organizations need to stand firm and not give in to Trump demands. More U.S. entities need to do so, too. It is shameful how many large, strong, well-respected institutions including universities, law firms, and corporations are kowtowing to this irrationality. As citizens we need as much as possible to vote with our dollars, as well as with our feet.
Protests across the nation Saturday April 5.
 

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Since I am effectively retired I've entertained getting more involved in local planning; I've got a lot of problems with local governance especially local NIMBYism so I'd love to be the one at these meetings telling these old people to STFU and die already. Once my kids get older and I hit my mid 40s this is likely my plan to keep myself (and #mywife) from going insane with weird personal projects.
I think you should. I was asked to join our township planning commission and I was already on the master plan advisory board (and parks and rec commission). Having seen other communities and counties in Michigan be overrun with insane right wing bullshit, I feel relief when we talk about the 62 day master plan public comment period required by law and the other requirements that are being adhered to without argument.
 

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I think you should. I was asked to join our township planning commission and I was already on the master plan advisory board (and parks and rec commission). Having seen other communities and counties in Michigan be overrun with insane right wing bullshit, I feel relief when we talk about the 62 day master plan public comment period required by law and the other requirements that are being adhered to without argument.
There's a community advisory board that I'll start interacting with so when the time comes I'll have some contacts. I live in a Toronto suburb so I'll probably have a lot of competition and there will be a lot of entrenched personalities so I don't think I'll be able to parachute into the arena and cracking skulls.

Toronto proper is sort of cooked from a planning perspective but my 'burb is still loose enough to get some things done and we're at least building a shit ton of condos. I'm sure my main enemy will be The Cyclists, who basically want special infrastructure everywhere in an environment where it is a nightmare to be outside 6 months a year.

My main agenda will be "Give me dedicated bus lanes or give me death!"
 

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Ukraine updates: Russia says it can't accept US peace deal


As expected: this wouldn't end anytime soon.
Just as I said, if Putin stops now that will basically mean that he lost the war. Since in 3+ years or war he took only about 10% of Ukraine. Even if we add what he took 10 years ago that is still only about 20%. So when you consider loses and loss of trade partners that is basically defeat in the big picture. However since he wants to have big legacy he will basically go "all in" on this. What means that there will need to be none peaceful solution to the problem (before any talks can produce results in the final end).


Buckle up guys, the main show probably didn't even start yet.
 

The Cat

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Well look who was visited by three spirits...
Respect for Corey Booker.
Rally together or be torn apart
 

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Thanks to climate change and the bad harvests that tend to come with it chocolate prices have been up internationally anyway, even before Trump decided you can just grow cocoa in Ohio.

So when I bought the large traditional* Swiss chocolate Easter bunny for my kids yesterday I paid 6.99 Euros each (that's 7.69 incl. taxes). Not sure if that is cheap or expensive to Americans, but @Virtual ghost can surely attest to this basically being daylight robbery for 200g (7 oz) of chocolate.

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*They've been around for 70 years or so and this is something I grew up with and now pass on to our children.


EDIT 1: Okay, so I just checked the Lindt USA website and they only sell the smaller 3.5 oz ones for the same price as the 7 oz bunnies in Europe, so exactly double the European price (UK price is pretty much the same as in Germany).

I'll grant you that nobody needs Swiss chocolate to survive, but with the new tariffs for Switzerland at a whopping 31% these will now get even more expensive in the US.

EDIT 2: Oh, and I forgot the American price doesn't even include taxes yet! ........ Jeeeez!
 

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So when I bought the large traditional* Swiss chocolate Easter bunny for my kids yesterday I paid 6.99 Euros each (that's 7.69 incl. taxes). Not sure if that is cheap or expensive to Americans, but @Virtual ghost can surely attest to this basically being daylight robbery for 200g (7 oz) of chocolate.

lindt-goldhase-200g.jpg

*They've been around for 70 years or so and this is something I grew up with and now pass on to our children.


EDIT 1: Okay, so I just checked the Lindt USA website and they only sell the smaller 3.5 oz ones for the same price as the 7 oz bunnies in Europe, so exactly double the European price (UK price is pretty much the same as in Germany).

I'll grant you that nobody needs Swiss chocolate to survive, but with the new tariffs for Switzerland at a whopping 31% these will now get even more expensive in the US.

EDIT 2: Oh, and I forgot the American price doesn't even include taxes yet! ........ Jeeeez!


I don't really want to do "I told you so" thing but I will do it simply as a friendly advice to everyone here. In other words all of this is exactly why I claimed over and over that every country in the world has to have collective healthcare system and backup of supplies. Since eventually sooner or latter there will come the time when normal economic activity simply wouldn't be possible anymore. So if you think this is bad I will only say that when I was as old as your children I was already a millionaire due to inflation (while kids over the border even got to be trillionaires on paper). To be fully honest back in a day I made some sort of a bet with myself about if I will ever experience as radical times as my early childhood. Therefore I must say that the odds of that happening again are going up quite fast, because all the signs are out in open. The inflation, the madman, the 24/7 drama, the war, the badly written laws, the retirements going up in smoke, weaker and weaker education, crumbling infrastructure ... etc. In other words feel free to buy your kids some "elite chocolate" ... since at this rate the money may not be worth the paper on which it was printed. Buy something useful while it is still worth something.

I know that this is dramatic but it is perhaps better that it is said.
 

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I don't really want to do "I told you so" thing but I will do it simply as a friendly advice to everyone here. In other words all of this is exactly why I claimed over and over that every country in the world has to have collective healthcare system and backup of supplies. Since eventually sooner or latter there will come the time when normal economic activity simply wouldn't be possible anymore. So if you think this is bad I will only say that when I was as old as your children I was already a millionaire due to inflation (while kids over the border even got to be trillionaires on paper). To be fully honest back in a day I made some sort of a bet with myself about if I will ever experience as radical times as my early childhood. Therefore I must say that the odds of that happening again are going up quite fast, because all the signs are out in open. The inflation, the madman, the 24/7 drama, the war, the badly written laws, the retirements going up in smoke, weaker and weaker education, crumbling infrastructure ... etc. In other words feel free to buy your kids some "elite chocolate" ... since at this rate the money may not be worth the paper on which it was printed. Buy something useful while it is still worth something.

I know that this is dramatic but it is perhaps better that it is said.
You missed my point.

But let me show you something.

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These are from my stamp collection. I got them from my grandfather. I learned about them on my mother's knee. Regular postal stamps with the new value rubberstamped on top of the old value because there was no time or money to print new ones. The red ones are for 2 million Marks each (initially printed as 5,000 and 20,000), the brown one is a postage stamp over 1 billion Marks. The ones next to them with the single digits on them were printed not too long before. I also own emergency money printed by the cities of Heidelberg and Hamburg at a point in time when many cities and small towns started printing their own because the national currency had broken down completely. That's 1923. There is a reason Germans are stability fetishists and fear few things more than inflation.

Family legend also has it that my mother saved her family because she was born after the war but when food was still rationed and since she wad simply a breastfed baby her foodstamps could go towards more calories for her siblings. She grew up with displaced persons from the East being send to live with her family by the city authorities because the city was bombed to pieces and there were not enough houses left standing for everybody. My grandfather was one of those city folks who took the train into the countryside to find farmers who would trade artworks, silverware or jewelry for food. When my uncles were taken to visit relatives in the countryside as little boys they ate so much food that they got ill because their little stomachs were not used to regular portions. My grandfather, who had grown up on a farm himself, decided to plant potatos in his city garden for ever after so that his family would never go hungry again.

When my dad, who worked on construction sites to finance his university education as a half-orphan noticed that somebody had stolen his university cafeteria foodstamps for the month he lived on the apples in his landlord's garden for several weeks.

As a school kid I was made to read a postapocalyptic novel about nuclear fallout and the end of civilization. My mother, a science teacher, taught me that if you had to pick just two things to live on you get by relatively well on potatos and milk. When I was a teenager, she gifted me the biography of a Jewish man who had been born in Germany and was forced to live in six different countries, speaking five languages and learning half a dozend professions just to survive. The quote she wrote in my poetry album was by the Roman stoic Epictetus: "One should not moor one's ship to one anchor nor one's life to one hope". It was important for her to teach her children to always be flexible, be content with what you've got, smell the roses and always have a plan B.

I am carrying that heritage with me. It's in my blood. On the 16th of March 2020 I picked up my daughter from kindergarden. There was lots of nervous chatter among the parents during pickup time. Apparently a national state of emergency had been declared, it was completely unclear what would happen next. There were rumors that even supermarkets and other food sources might be closed very soon. So I grapped my kid and went to the supermarket. The mood there was extremely grim. Nobody acted out or panicked, but you could see the fear and concern on all the faces. People were shopping hastily and in eery silence.... I grabed a few kilos of potatos.



And Lindt chocolate, prijatelju moj, is not "elite chocolate". It is simply good quality.
 
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Virtual ghost

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You missed my point.

But let me show you something.

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These are from my stamp collection. I got them from my grandfather. I learned about them on my mother's knee. Regular postal stamps with the new value rubberstamped on top of the old value because there was no time or money to print new ones. The red ones are for 2 million Marks each (initially printed as 5,000 and 20,000), the brown one is a postage stamp over 1 billion Marks. The ones next to them with the single digits on them were printed not too long before. I also own emergency money printed by the cities of Heidelberg and Hamburg at a point in time when many cities and small towns started printing their own because the national currency had broken down completely. That's 1923. There is a reason Germans are stability fetishists and fear few things more than inflation.

Family legend also has it that my mother saved her family because she was born after the war but when food was still rationed and since she wad simply a breastfed baby her foodstamps could go towards more calories for her siblings. She grew up with displaced persons from the East being send to live with her family by the city authorities because the city was bombed to pieces and there were not enough houses left standing for everybody. My grandfather was one of those city folks who took the train into the countryside to find farmers who would trade artworks, silverware or jewelry for food. When my uncles were taken to visit relatives in the countryside as little boys they ate so much food that they got ill because their little stomachs were not used to regular portions. My grandfather, who had grown up on a farm himself, decided to plant potatos in his city garden for ever after so that his family would never go hungry again.

When my dad, who worked on construction sites to finance his university education as a half-orphan noticed that somebody had stolen his university cafeteria foodstamps for the month he lived on the apples in his landlord's garden for several weeks.

As a school kid I was made to read a postapocalyptic novel about nuclear fallout and the end of civilization. My mother, a science teacher, taught me that if you had to pick just two things to live on you get by relatively well on potatos and milk. When I was a teenager, she gifted me the biography of a Jewish man who had been born in Germany and was forced to live in six different countries, speaking five languages and learning half a dozend professions just to survive. The quote she wrote in my poetry album was by the Roman stoic Epictetus: "One should not moor one's ship to one anchor nor one's life to one hope". It was important for her to teach her children to always be flexible, be content with what you've got, smell the roses and always have a plan B.

I am carrying that heritage with me. It's in my blood. On the 16th of March 2020 I picked up my daughter from kindergarden. There was lots of nervous chatter among the parents during pickup time. Apparently a national state of emergency had been declared, it was completely unclear what would happen next. There were rumors that even supermarkets and other food sources might be closed very soon. So I grapped my kid and went to the supermarket. The mood there was extremely grim. Nobody acted out or panicked, but you could see the fear and concern on all the faces. People were shopping hastily and in eery silence.... I grabed a few kilos of potatos.



And Lindt chocolate, prijatelju moj, is not "elite chocolate". It is simply good quality.


Actually I was thinking about mentioning that era of German history (but for some reason I decide not to, it seemed as too private and kinda rude). However I am glad that you got the picture of what I am saying. Especially since what seems to be coming is worst than COVID. It is evidently multi dimensional and it is man made. What usually means much more drama in the mix.

Plus for me Lind chocolate is kinda elitist. It is Swiss and when your average wage is only about 40% of German one that is one expensive chocolate. Especially since the wage gap used to be even larger in the past. However due to EU policies this is equalizing slowly over the years.
 

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Plus I don't think that I really missed the point, it is just that I wanted to push the topic in this direction. Since current events really are opening some serious questions for me, so this is on my mind.
 

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On point.​
Our nation formed when it did because people of otherwise very diverse political opinions looked beyond them in their agreement about independence. They didn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you play all or nothing, you can all too easily end up with nothing. (This, by the way, is why the Palestinians still do not have their own state.)
 

The Cat

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They're doing this because they think sick people can't protest.

 
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