Random political thought thread.

[Lark]

Here's some fraud for anyone looking for some.

Fake ballots, Q Anon, and a Virginia senator: “Alarming” incident prompts gun charges for men outside Philly vote-counting center

The old fascist double standard operating there

 

[Red Memories]

I'm saying Trump wasn't the bad guy, and never was. He is intentionally treated unfairly. Almost all the cases against his "Bad" things are mostly bunk theory crafting and propaganda done by the Liberal run media, social media, various government institutes, academia, and plutocrats who run the country behind the scenes to manipulate people into hating him. Purely because he is an outsider, won't cater to them and actively sabotages their slave labour profits overseas.

I don't care if you don't believe me, but if you want to understand me you have to literally see a waaaaay bigger picture than what you are seeing now. Maybe one day you guys will realize Trump was actually the good guy, but I don't have my hopes up.

I can understand the feelings of the hysteria, but I wouldn't call either one of these politicians a "good guy". I am giving Biden a benefit of a doubt. I already saw 4 years of Trump, and I saw him use the religious book I highly value as a "look at me I'm so good" prop. I saw him mock disabled people. I heard his disrespect to women. He cut back environmental regulations something awful. He supports stop and frisk. There's a lot of reasons both elections - I did not vote Trump.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Coriolis]

I'm saying Trump wasn't the bad guy, and never was. He is intentionally treated unfairly. Almost all the cases against his "Bad" things are mostly bunk theory crafting and propaganda done by the Liberal run media, social media, various government institutes, academia, and plutocrats who run the country behind the scenes to manipulate people into hating him. Purely because he is an outsider, won't cater to them and actively sabotages their slave labour profits overseas.

I don't care if you don't believe me, but if you want to understand me you have to literally see a waaaaay bigger picture than what you are seeing now. Maybe one day you guys will realize Trump was actually the good guy, but I don't have my hopes up.

Trump is a bad guy, but bad guys don't make it to the presidency without support from a significant number of people who either are also bad, or truly delusional, or (most likely) will overlook how bad he is because they think they can benefit from him. Many people are complicit in Trump's election and the havoc he wreaked at home and abroad during his tenure. If you want the long view or big picture, it will be that Trump goes down in history as the worst president we have ever had, and is viewed as a symptom of our own collective failings as a nation.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Goodbye due process in sexual assault cases.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Goodbye due process in sexual assault cases.

That certainly won't harm people of color. It's never been an issue in the past.

 

[Tater]

Trump supporters scream at Telemundo reporter during live broadcast from Maricopa ballot center | TheHill

Trump Supporters Swarm Election Offices as Count Goes On

Assholes.

 

[The Cat]

 

[The Cat]

Trump is a bad guy, but bad guys don't make it to the presidency without support from a significant number of people who either are also bad, or truly delusional, or (most likely) will overlook how bad he is because they think they can benefit from him. Many people are complicit in Trump's election and the havoc he wreaked at home and abroad during his tenure. If you want the long view or big picture, it will be that Trump goes down in history as the worst president we have ever had, and is viewed as a symptom of our own collective failings as a nation.

so far. The next model one will be more advanced. this wasnt a victory it was a stopgap measure, things are going to get more complicated now.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

That certainly won't harm people of color. It's never been an issue in the past.

Yawn

 

[Lexicon]

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Shouldn't "being horrified by the movie Cats" also be part of this? I think that would have to be an essential part of the experience.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

It couldn’t be more obvious that Mittens is setting himself up for a 2024 run

 

[Lexicon]

Shouldn't "being horrified by the movie Cats" also be part of this? I think that would have to be an essential part of the experience.

I refuse to acknowledge that thing. You stop it right now.

 

[Burning Paradigm]

If Trump refuses to concede, that only increases the chances of Secret Service having to drag his ass out. Maybe on live TV. I believe politics can become infected by theater too quickly. But, if it comes down to it, that might be some theater I wouldn't mind seeing. It's just sad at this point.

 

[Lark]

If Trump refuses to concede, that only increases the chances of Secret Service having to drag his ass out. Maybe on live TV. I believe politics can become infected by theater too quickly. But, if it comes down to it, that might be some theater I wouldn't mind seeing. It's just sad at this point.

I honestly think this is like a reality TV show or WWE wrestling at this point.

The phony nature of politics has been something recognizable to me for a while and its felt like shifts in those holding office are calculated to depress or elate certain populations as is required by the economy or other things dependent on "animal spirits" or "public moods", like births/reproduction rate.

Like since 1997 at least I thought politics in the UK was replaced by showmanship, PR and a king of managerialism. You've got a sort of "two speed" neo-liberalism and that's your options, just like Pepsi and Coca Cola are a "real choice".

Though, I still think that, concerningly, there's too great a population that actually thinks this is all for real. Like real enough that it could cost their lives or others.

 

[Burning Paradigm]

Your periodic reminder: Fuck Mitch McConnell.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Jaguar]

All I have to do is see Okeefe's Project Veritas anywhere near a headline and I know the claims made will be bogus. lol.

 

[Maou]

Seems a lot of you are totally okay with potential election fraud as long as Trump is out of office. There are hundreds of affidavits on witnessed election fraud across the country, and statistical and mathematical evidence of deviation (Benford's Law). Don't you think they should be looked into regardless, so millions of people don't lose faith in the integrity of elections? I mean, the mainstream media just spent 4 years saying Trump stole the election which was investigated and proven to be false. How is it fair and just to dismiss right wing voter's concerns as conspiracy? It is completely within Trump's rights to investigate it. Regardless of who you want to win the election, allegations should be investigated. ESPECIALLY when things were this close.

This fraud case has the potential to mean various other things as well. The election software used this year that caused several "glitches", has been used in various other countries. IF fraud is found, that could potentially mean other country's elections were also tampered with. That would be a huge issue for everyone.