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Random political thought thread.

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I sometimes despair over humanity - and it scares me.

Facebook's algorithm threw a picture at me that some architecture site had posted. It was a picture of a woman with her dog and a bundle of posessions sitting in the ruins of what was said to be recently bombed Cologne at the end of WW2.

The issue is the comments (and the fact that they might actually be representative!!!).

The majority of reactions were from Americans saying how they once visited Cologne and what a lovely city it is. No mention of the war at all. Also, the fact she has her dog with her shows she's a good person. Let's hope she lived happily ever after.

Then there is the odd Trumper saying that this is what happens when you follow a mad man and therefore Americans must refrain from ever again electing "a Democrat or most Republicans".

Then there are a few Germans saying how any war is terrible and that is the lesson here. Also, the poor innocent civilians! She could have been my grandmother, etc. Little mention of nazism.

Then there are the Polish commentators saying she got off lucky if she survived and all German civilians should have been killed after what the nazis did. Kill all Germans!

Then, the most disturbing to me, a German neonazi and a (hard to pin down) other rightwinger conversing over how the allied forces committed war crimes against German civilians (which is true), talking specifically about the Rheinwiesen incident, and how therefore the allied forces were "just as bad as the nazis" (in German) . The second nazi answered (in English) that the war was caused by anti-German propaganda spread by the Jewish marxist kabal, namely the Frankfurt School of philosophy (Adorno, etc). I wondered if I should report that as hatespeech but in my experience Facebook is pretty, ehm, relaxed about that if it doesn't precisely fit into a certain mould.

And then there's the guy with the Persian name who said the war was sponsored by Rothschild. I did report that because that's such a golden oldie even Facebook should appreciate it.



But now I really feel like I need a shower! :sick:
 

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I sometimes despair over humanity - and it scares me.

Facebook's algorithm threw a picture at me that some architecture site had posted. It was a picture of a woman with her dog and a bundle of posessions sitting in the ruins of what was said to be recently bombed Cologne at the end of WW2.

The issue is the comments (and the fact that they might actually be representative!!!).

The majority of reactions were from Americans saying how they once visited Cologne and what a lovely city it is. No mention of the war at all. Also, the fact she has her dog with her shows she's a good person. Let's hope she lived happily ever after.

Then there is the odd Trumper saying that this is what happens when you follow a mad man and therefore Americans must refrain from ever again electing "a Democrat or most Republicans".

Then there are a few Germans saying how any war is terrible and that is the lesson here. Also, the poor innocent civilians! She could have been my grandmother, etc. Little mention of nazism.

Then there are the Polish commentators saying she got off lucky if she survived and all German civilians should have been killed after what the nazis did. Kill all Germans!

Then, the most disturbing to me, a German neonazi and a (hard to pin down) other rightwinger conversing over how the allied forces committed war crimes against German civilians (which is true), talking specifically about the Rheinwiesen incident, and how therefore the allied forces were "just as bad as the nazis" (in German) . The second nazi answered (in English) that the war was caused by anti-German propaganda spread by the Jewish marxist kabal, namely the Frankfurt School of philosophy (Adorno, etc). I wondered if I should report that as hatespeech but in my experience Facebook is pretty, ehm, relaxed about that if it doesn't precisely fit into a certain mould.

And then there's the guy with the Persian name who said the war was sponsored by Rothschild. I did report that because that's such a golden oldie even Facebook should appreciate it.



But now I really feel like I need a shower! :sick:
It feels like taking crazy pills, with all the history, recent history, and so many seem to be going back to some of the worst times in modern history.
 

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I sometimes despair over humanity - and it scares me.

Facebook's algorithm threw a picture at me that some architecture site had posted. It was a picture of a woman with her dog and a bundle of posessions sitting in the ruins of what was said to be recently bombed Cologne at the end of WW2.

The issue is the comments (and the fact that they might actually be representative!!!).

The majority of reactions were from Americans saying how they once visited Cologne and what a lovely city it is. No mention of the war at all. Also, the fact she has her dog with her shows she's a good person. Let's hope she lived happily ever after.

Then there is the odd Trumper saying that this is what happens when you follow a mad man and therefore Americans must refrain from ever again electing "a Democrat or most Republicans".

Then there are a few Germans saying how any war is terrible and that is the lesson here. Also, the poor innocent civilians! She could have been my grandmother, etc. Little mention of nazism.

Then there are the Polish commentators saying she got off lucky if she survived and all German civilians should have been killed after what the nazis did. Kill all Germans!

Then, the most disturbing to me, a German neonazi and a (hard to pin down) other rightwinger conversing over how the allied forces committed war crimes against German civilians (which is true), talking specifically about the Rheinwiesen incident, and how therefore the allied forces were "just as bad as the nazis" (in German) . The second nazi answered (in English) that the war was caused by anti-German propaganda spread by the Jewish marxist kabal, namely the Frankfurt School of philosophy (Adorno, etc). I wondered if I should report that as hatespeech but in my experience Facebook is pretty, ehm, relaxed about that if it doesn't precisely fit into a certain mould.

And then there's the guy with the Persian name who said the war was sponsored by Rothschild. I did report that because that's such a golden oldie even Facebook should appreciate it.



But now I really feel like I need a shower! :sick:



With all due respect but all of that is fairly mild in my book. Especially since it is retroactive.
You are living in a country where autocracy isn't mainstream and thus your local social media landscape isn't "that bad"
On the other hand I am from the place that Russia considers a part of it's orbit and that makes things much worse. Before the war my social media landscape was completely full of "Russian greatness". Every 3rd or 4rd recommendation for me was something related to "Greatness of Russia". Russian tanks, Russian culture, Russian missiles, Russian food, Russian banks, Russian magazines ... etc. etc. Plus don't even get me started on "You shouldn't take the vaccine because US company made it". Just based on all of that I was basically certain that there will be a war at one point. However as Biden won physical and online Russian presence started to fade. While with the start of the war it really started to fade due to open blocking of certain content. However due to all this I don't use social media. In my case there is just too much garbage on it to be worth the time. After all not all garbage is of Russian origin. I just don't want to poison myself with PTSD stuff on regular basis, life is too short for that. As people are promoting various lifestyles these days I really think we should advocate one that is "social media free".
 

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And then there's the guy with the Persian name who said the war was sponsored by Rothschild. I did report that because that's such a golden oldie even Facebook should appreciate it.



But now I really feel like I need a shower! :sick:
Update on that: Apparently the Rothschild comment does not violate Facebook community standards.
After all the post didn't include nudity.🙄
 

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To be honest I am not surprised that it doesn't.
As I said in my case they have tolerated far more explicit garbage and in much bigger volumes.
 

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This has too much good stuff to categorize into something.


It came on my stream and I just couldn't stop watching.
 

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Sometimes I wonder what would happen if the US joined the EU. I know it would never happen, but sometimes I wonder what you call an event where so many people spontaneously combust for so many different reasons. I think they should call it Fwooshing.

That is very unlikely, since US is just too big for that.
The whole EU has only 30% more people than US. What is too big to just be the 28th member of the union.

However what can be done is advocating for various EU like policies in US. This way you kinda get the same result and this is much more likely to work.
 

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I enjoy this guy's work. The uncanny valley against actual sound bytes really works reality is surreal this video and his others really highlight that. Bill Mahar has always been a dick, now he's just an old dick.
It's hard to believe that show is still on HBO. I mean how many times can you have people like that blockhead Erick Erickson and spewing verbal diarrhea in the opinions section Megan McArdle on repeatedly and continue to carp about both sides?

Although if anyone is interested in listening to Megan McArdle get run over, older Chapo Trap House episodes are 🤌

 

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It's hard to believe that show is still on HBO. I mean how many times can you have people like that blockhead Erick Erickson and spewing verbal diarrhea in the opinions section Megan McArdle on repeatedly and continue to carp about both sides?

Although if anyone is interested in listening to Megan McArdle get run over, older Chapo Trap House episodes are 🤌

I've never seen the appeal of Bill Mahar, he's never punched up with his comedy. If I want to be talked down to by someone who thinks they're funny I'll watch the local news. Bill Mahar reminds me of less funny Dennis Miller who was never in the sandra bullock movie the net or Tales from the Crypt's Bordello of Blood and....I guess the Dennis Miller show...which had the tears for fears song and after that I stopped watching. His monolgues were just a bunch of big word salad that ultimately seemed to mean nothing and that's saying something. I feel like Miller and Mahar and Gary Shandling and Chris Isaac for some reason are all people that HBO really tried to sell us were funny in the 90's.
 
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