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Watched Peckinpah's Straw Dogs (1971) today too. Not sure how I feel about it. At the time it might have seemed rather new, but I have 50 years of cinema built on top of the concepts in this film and now it just seemed like a derivative throwback with ambiguity over its rapes and violence in the film. The protagonist, while buckling down to move from an ineffectual and mild-mannered intellectual early in the film who can't deal with conflict, seems to swing to the opposite pole and still remain entirely clueless and insensitive towards his wife while apparently now "proving himself" in his capacity to kill or maim the group of men attacking the house.

The men themselves -- the "villains" -- don't really seem to have any purpose driving their violence either, they are just drunk self-feeding reprobates and aren't really fleshed out.... although I now know where the tittering villain cliche comes from (as there's one of them who continuously breaks into high-pitched giggles, which gets annoying fast).

I read a little about the book it is based on, and the book does not have the rapes (which in the film have some ambiguity in the woman's response, which caused a controversy) and it actually has a more complex plot where you can understand the townsmen -- while misunderstanding a situation -- think there is a threat that the protagonist is housing and that it's their job to protect the village, which they think they are doing by trying to capture and punish the supposed culprit (who actually is innocent in the book of the specific act they are concerned about, although he's guilty of similar crimes in the past). So the book has a lot of complexity in the moral threads. The film seemed stupid in comparison, in terms of how the hero is contemptible for most of the film and doesn't become any more admirable despite "embracing his machismo" by the end because he still is clueless about his wife and treats her like dirt. There was a lot of this film I either laughed at or I kind of felt REALLY uncomfortable watching (e.g., the rape sequences).
I rewatched The Wild Bunch a couple months ago. It just seemed sort of blah. Must have been shocking in the day but mild by today's standards. Lots of aspects that just were not that impressive. A lot of 70s cinema may not hold up. I have been watching a lot of things from that era and I keep asking "Why is this held up as great" and "How did this win?"
 

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I rewatched The Wild Bunch a couple months ago. It just seemed sort of blah. Must have been shocking in the day but mild by today's standards. Lots of aspects that just were not that impressive. A lot of 70s cinema may not hold up. I have been watching a lot of things from that era and I keep asking "Why is this held up as great" and "How did this win?"
I know Ebert felt like Peckinpah said whatever he meant to say in Straw Dogs far better in The Wild Bunch (he spoke of how especially in westerns at that point, violence was selective -- the bad guys would suffer, the good guys barely got hurt -- and then in The Wild Bunch, violence seemed to fall indiscriminately on the good and bad alike like rain).

I've never seen that film yet.

I mean, there was some shocking stuff in this film but more at the audacity of the characters. I made a joke to my son early in the film that the bear trap we saw was probably the film's "Chekhov's Gun" -- simply because a flourish was made about setting it up to be live, undoubtedly someone was going to get caught in it... and boy did someone get caught in it. Although I will leave the surprise be which part of his body was caught in it.
 
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I love Paul Verhoven. My favorite film of his is not RoboCop, but Total Recall.

Total Recall has weird sci-fi stuff, metatextuality, and bizarre comedy.

If you don't like Total Recall, well, open your mind.

 

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I love Paul Verhoven. My favorite film of his is not RoboCop, but Total Recall.

Total Recall has weird sci-fi stuff, metatextuality, and bizarre comedy.

If you don't like Total Recall, well, open your mind.

I watched that again not long ago. Just so much fun. I didn't like the remake.
Verhoven has a number of interesting films and seems underappreciated as a filmmaker.
 
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I watched that again not long ago. Just so much fun. I didn't like the remake.
Verhoven has a number of interesting films and seems underappreciated as a filmmaker.
I didn't bother with the remake, but I couldn't imagine it would be as good in a more contemporary grimdark-this-is-serious-business film.
 
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Sorry for posting so much, the trailer has me pumped, lol!

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I tried watching Bound, but I had to turn it off because my Dad found it to be unpleasant because of a lesbian sex scene. I said "You're watch movies with heterosexual sex scenes and you have no problem with those, so what's the issue with this one?" Like, a lesbian sex scene. So what? Who cares?

Very annoying. I'll just watch it on my own, then.
 

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Started watching Juror 2 but gawd the writing was just... lackluster. How can you make all of these decent actors seem so average? It's so generic, so surface-level in the writing. I didn't even recognize it as an Eastwood film. So I got 40 minutes in, maybe I'll try to finish it later.

Much better was The Fall Guy -- great tone with the writing and music, great leads in Gosling and Blunt (who just seemed to have a perfect feel for the tone) but also supporting cast. Looks like Taylor-Johnson has had a very busy year! I wish this film had done better at the box office, it seems to understand exactly what it is, what it's meant to be, the writing is poppy and supports that, and it's a nice homage to the TV show in its own way (and how a cameo should be handled).
 
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I was finally able to finish Bound.

I wouldn't say it's a perfect movie, but it's pretty great. Mostly I found some of the talkier mafia/crime planning scenes were a little slow. Otherwise, there was a great deal of tension which ended in a satisfying conclusion.

The movie also has some elements that show up in the Matrix, like the music, the clothing, ominous shots of ringing landlines, other similar shots. In general, the Wachowskis seem fascinated by the possibilities of telecommunications. A phone is not a phone, it can transport you somewhere else, and that is even more the case today.

I loved when Vi shot Cesare. That was so satisfying.

Caesar: "You don't wanna shoot me, Vi. Do ya. Do ya? I know you don't."
Violet: "Caesar, you don't know shit."


And of course, the final lines were awesome:

Corky: "You know what the difference is between you and me, Violet?"
Violet: "No."
Corky: "Me neither."
 

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Started watching Juror 2 but gawd the writing was just... lackluster. How can you make all of these decent actors seem so average? It's so generic, so surface-level in the writing. I didn't even recognize it as an Eastwood film. So I got 40 minutes in, maybe I'll try to finish it later.

Much better was The Fall Guy -- great tone with the writing and music, great leads in Gosling and Blunt (who just seemed to have a perfect feel for the tone) but also supporting cast. Looks like Taylor-Johnson has had a very busy year! I wish this film had done better at the box office, it seems to understand exactly what it is, what it's meant to be, the writing is poppy and supports that, and it's a nice homage to the TV show in its own way (and how a cameo should be handled).
I watched to the end but that is one of Eastwood's worst films. Just movie-of-week writing.
I don't like Gosling in most of his work.... mostly just plays himself and I don't find him interesting enough. Fall Guy just bored me and I stopped 30 minutes in. Maybe I will give it another try. I don't think Taylor-Johnson is lead actor worthy. Just the wrong vibe for me, I guess.
 

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I watched to the end but that is one of Eastwood's worst films. Just movie-of-week writing.
Yeah, I honestly felt like I was watching a film made for one of the routine cable networks, rather than a real cinematic feature. Even the courtroom banter was subpar.

I don't like Gosling in most of his work.... mostly just plays himself and I don't find him interesting enough. Fall Guy just bored me and I stopped 30 minutes in. Maybe I will give it another try. I don't think Taylor-Johnson is lead actor worthy. Just the wrong vibe for me, I guess.
Yeah. It had a very specific tone that I happened to like, but I would understand if it wasn't someone else's cup of tea since the tone was so specific. It was nice to see Stephanie Hsu again, even in a small role. I honestly felt like she deserved Supporting Actress Oscar more than JLC for EEAAO, if they had to pick someone from that film.
 
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Got a hold of Sometimes I Think About Dying with Daisy Ridley. I'm glad there has been some life for her after the whole Star Wars debacle (which was never her fault). She really got her big break in TFA and learned on the job, I remember from interviews -- it was a grueling push on her to improve her acting -- and she delivers here. This is a hard performance to pull off. It's possible if she were ten years further into her career, she might have done better -- but I think primarily she delivered what the director was asking for and it was the director's (and/or script's) job to better smooth out the performance.

This is one of those rare parts where I felt some similarity to a character. I feel like Fran needs more structure than I do, but the overall brush strokes of her character I could really relate to. It's like the only place she can feel safe and certain is in her own environment, by herself, and she creates that bubble around herself by silence around her coworkers. She might have a bit of disdain for them and sometimes views their workplace chatter as banal -- but at the same time she longs to be accepted as part of the group and to fit in. She just feels uninteresting as a person (mostly because she inhibits her interactions and has nothing to share of time with others, and there are suggestions she grew up in an area without much communication or human contact) and also like she is inadequate to know what others want from her or what the expectations are so that she can comfortably meet them. Others around her seem to be very at ease in navigating human interaction. It's just that it also seems kind of messy and incomprehensible, and other people have more volatile and unpredictable mood changes to her. Fran desperately clings to stability, but this makes her unchanging and somewhat lifeless.

So she ends up having these compulsive thoughts about what it would feel like to be dead. Not dying, not killing herself per se, but what it would just feel like to be a corpse. Imagining herself in different settings as a dead person. it's a weird psychological place to be. It's like how the isolated mind processes that state of feeling numb, not even being sure what one likes or dislikes because they've never needed to recognize or articulate it, and just not knowing how to fit in.

The film is more about Fran's growing self-awareness and learning things about herself, as well as the catalyst brought by a new coworker. It's clear she has the capability and there are things about her she hasn't even recognized herself, but it needs other people to be drawn out.

I could put myself in Fran's shoes a lot, in terms of her experience and just feeling so clueless at times it leaves one without the ability to even engage even when she wants to. It's not wrong that she finds it easier at first to talk through IM, and there are little hints of sardonic wit slipping through via her minimalistic literalness. She also drifts immediately to Robert, who can engage and be more open but also seems very appreciative of her flaws and views them sometimes as strengths -- and who makes subtle jokes that others might not appreciate but she finds interesting.
 
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Rewatched Interstellar.

It's mostly a tight script. I like how well the first act of the movie sets up the third act. I wasn't able to predict this the first time around. There was one thing that bothered me which I'll speak of below.

Regarding the conflict between Brandt and Cooper, I found myself siding with Brandt. Cooper is being hypocritical. While criticizing Brandt for her lack of objectivity, simultaneously his primary concern is getting back to his kids as soon as possible.

The first time around, I concerned the scenes with Mann to be unnecessary. However, I know think they are important for heightening the tension and the ending wouldn't have the same level of urgency without them. I do dislike how often his character is set up as "the best of us" on multiple occasions; watching this movie the second time around, it seems artificial. I suppose this is meant to conceal what actually happened/will happen, but it sticks out on a rewatch.

The theme of time resonated with me powerfully on this viewing. The combination of anger and sadness adult Murphy shows at Cooper in one of her first scenes was compelling. I love how the move makes relativistic time a plot point. I appreciate the way the planets and black holes are depicted. Science fiction often fails to acknowledge how bizarre the universe can actually be.

Interstellar is a solid science fiction story with compelling stakes and the interesting usage of actual scientific concepts.

9/10
 

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I love Paul Verhoven. My favorite film of his is not RoboCop, but Total Recall.

Total Recall has weird sci-fi stuff, metatextuality, and bizarre comedy.

If you don't like Total Recall, well, open your mind.

 

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Rewatched Interstellar.

It's mostly a tight script. I like how well the first act of the movie sets up the third act. I wasn't able to predict this the first time around. There was one thing that bothered me which I'll speak of below.

Regarding the conflict between Brandt and Cooper, I found myself siding with Brandt. Cooper is being hypocritical. While criticizing Brandt for her lack of objectivity, simultaneously his primary concern is getting back to his kids as soon as possible.

The first time around, I concerned the scenes with Mann to be unnecessary. However, I know think they are important for heightening the tension and the ending wouldn't have the same level of urgency without them. I do dislike how often his character is set up as "the best of us" on multiple occasions; watching this movie the second time around, it seems artificial. I suppose this is meant to conceal what actually happened/will happen, but it sticks out on a rewatch.

The theme of time resonated with me powerfully on this viewing. The combination of anger and sadness adult Murphy shows at Cooper in one of her first scenes was compelling. I love how the move makes relativistic time a plot point. I appreciate the way the planets and black holes are depicted. Science fiction often fails to acknowledge how bizarre the universe can actually be.

Interstellar is a solid science fiction story with compelling stakes and the interesting usage of actual scientific concepts.

9/10
I forget if I said this previously, but I think Mann (whose name is kind of on the nose) ties into comments made earlier by Brandt when she tells Cooper that evil doesn't really exist in nature -- it's something that human beings bring with them. He embodies the voice of reason without individual compassion, which can justify violations of specific individuals in the name of the "greater good."

I think he's a little frightening because he's not completely wrong (like why the elder Brandt doesn't fill the staff in that there is no plan A realistically, so as to encourage them to contribute to the cause, because they wouldn't be as invested on a purely philanthropic level). However, he was a chicken-shit coward (which I could forgive if he owned up to it and tried to make up for it) who then tries to off Cooper and maroon them on the same planet they just saved him from in the name of the greater good, rather than trying to win them over -- that kind of duplicity is the "evil" he embodies.

We kinda also had to have Mann, because the docking sequence is a highlight of the film. Like, damn.

Mackenzie Foy (young Murph) and Jessica Chastain (adult Murph) are just really great in their individual performances plus how those performances and their appearances mesh. It's really believable they're one character, and Chastain in particular SO well sells Murph's hope, desperation, and anger as an adult. She makes it look so easy. (Of course, Burstyn also just nails her small role out of the park.) But yeah, that first appearance of adult Murph is incredible and Chastain just embodies it -- leading to one of the coolest cuts in the film too when we step back with her into a present-moment scene rather than what we were viewing a past recording.

I really like how Cooper rips on Brandt about love being quantitative and her belief does sound a little flimsy in the moment -- but she ends up being correct for the crux of the film, that the specificity of Cooper's relationship with his daughter -- exact moments in time he is aware of personally -- is what enables him to connect with her across space and time. He's the only one who knows of those moments and knows how to reach her, and the watch he gave her out of love is something he knows she would never abandon and is the vehicle for all the information he provides her. Cooper ends up with egg on his face and ends up going to support Brandt in the end.
 
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