Totenkindly
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Saw Thunderbolts* today.
I wasn't surprised at the tag end and finding out what the asterisks meant -- I wasn't really reading comics much during that time, but didn't something like that happen? Or if not, it was still pretty predictable.
Most Marvel films since Endgame, I'd give a C, D, or F too. This was a B or B-. It had some good ideas, it had one or two moments that actually led me to cry, and it tried to do something a bit different. On the other hand, I'm not sure how well the "bit different" panned out, since I was kind of indifferent by the end of the film regardless and probably wouldn't rewatch it.
I did appreciate what an asshole John Walker is, and the script / Wyatt Russell doesn't pull any punches in that regard. But I also felt there were a bunch of moments that were supposed to make the audience laugh, yet they kinda fell dead. I did LOL twice, I think, but the rest of the audience seemed disengaged.
The best setpiece is probably the fight against The Sentry, which is kind of terrifying because of how unstoppable such a character could be -- essentially Superman in a Marvel world. It makes the character a bit unviable for future appearances as well, aside from a Hail Mary moment. So, see where this got us? A team comprised of people with overlapping powers (three super-serum folks, a black widow, and a character that can disrupt electronics / turn invisible) -- there's not a lot of variety here. And another character who can't perform lest he destroy the world. Yeah.
There are still some great acting moments in this film -- mostly from Florence Pugh (once playing against David Harbour, who matches her), and there's also a great facial expression from Julia Louis-Dreyfuss at one point that captures a nuance of emotion, from a character who is mostly just a fast-talking face and annoying manipulator type. I think the acting moments that work are bigger than the script, which doesn't really have many leaks but doesn't set up many GOOD set pieces either and is mostly perfunctory/functional.
Of course there are end credits and they seem to be typical MCU shenanigans. I could have done without them honestly.
I wasn't surprised at the tag end and finding out what the asterisks meant -- I wasn't really reading comics much during that time, but didn't something like that happen? Or if not, it was still pretty predictable.
Most Marvel films since Endgame, I'd give a C, D, or F too. This was a B or B-. It had some good ideas, it had one or two moments that actually led me to cry, and it tried to do something a bit different. On the other hand, I'm not sure how well the "bit different" panned out, since I was kind of indifferent by the end of the film regardless and probably wouldn't rewatch it.
I did appreciate what an asshole John Walker is, and the script / Wyatt Russell doesn't pull any punches in that regard. But I also felt there were a bunch of moments that were supposed to make the audience laugh, yet they kinda fell dead. I did LOL twice, I think, but the rest of the audience seemed disengaged.
The best setpiece is probably the fight against The Sentry, which is kind of terrifying because of how unstoppable such a character could be -- essentially Superman in a Marvel world. It makes the character a bit unviable for future appearances as well, aside from a Hail Mary moment. So, see where this got us? A team comprised of people with overlapping powers (three super-serum folks, a black widow, and a character that can disrupt electronics / turn invisible) -- there's not a lot of variety here. And another character who can't perform lest he destroy the world. Yeah.
There are still some great acting moments in this film -- mostly from Florence Pugh (once playing against David Harbour, who matches her), and there's also a great facial expression from Julia Louis-Dreyfuss at one point that captures a nuance of emotion, from a character who is mostly just a fast-talking face and annoying manipulator type. I think the acting moments that work are bigger than the script, which doesn't really have many leaks but doesn't set up many GOOD set pieces either and is mostly perfunctory/functional.
Of course there are end credits and they seem to be typical MCU shenanigans. I could have done without them honestly.