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Drapeaux

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1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type? I'm more just interested in other people's perceptions and feedback. Some people in my life view me as having Te.

2) What do you yearn for in life? Why? To be successful so I can be self sufficient. To understand the ways in which other people think so I can discover how pathology manifests and fix it. So essentially, to be successful enough to change the world for the better.

3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way. I'm not entirely sure if I can think of a specific example of this. I sometimes feel very good, other times I don't. It doesn't necessarily depend on the external environment but more on my own inner state.

4) What makes you feel inferior? When I say something incorrect and when I misread the atmosphere in a social setting.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.) I weigh what is logical with what is best for the majority. Ideally those two things are congruent, but when they're not, I am more likely to go with what makes sense and cut my losses in the social sphere. I utilize tact though.

6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome? Why would I work on something if I don't have control of how it comes out? Isn't that the point of working on a project?

7) Describe a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it? I have fond memories of the innocence of childhood, despite some objectively rough patches. Nostalgia, I guess. The memory is hazy but the feelings and impressions aren't.

8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? In terms of how I learn? I like to just throw myself into studying something, usually by reading about it.

9) How organized do you think of yourself as? Pretty organized. I tend to have a place for everything in my environment.

10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it? Both? Both is important.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself? I mean again, I'm going to say both, but generally I think if you are doing something no one else agrees with or understands, it's more likely you're doing the wrong thing than everyone else is.

12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions? I think before speaking and prefer one on one communication.

13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words? I like to look before leaping. Actions speak differently than words, not more or less.

14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do? Invite my friend over to watch the show with me.

15) How do you act when you're stressed out? I hole myself up and go toward comfort-seeking habits.

16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people? Rudeness, lack of tact, self righteousness for no reason, inability to admit when you're wrong.

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people? Mutual interests and hobbies, psychology, their life, experiences and emotions, etc.

18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life? Boring things like chores and food prep.

19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ? They view me as consistent, logical, friendly, reserved, and empathetic. I don't think they see my adventurous side as much as I'd like, but it's fine. They'd never say I'm impulsive.

20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing? Honestly I'd just want to spend the day by myself relaxing at home. Sorry if boring.
 

Satachi

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Based on those answers alone, I would agree with the assessment of Te rather than Fe. What is your reasoning for your belief in being an ISFJ?
 

Luminous

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4) What makes you feel inferior? When I say something incorrect and when I misread the atmosphere in a social setting.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.) I weigh what is logical with what is best for the majority. Ideally those two things are congruent, but when they're not, I am more likely to go with what makes sense and cut my losses in the social sphere. I utilize tact though.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself? I mean again, I'm going to say both, but generally I think if you are doing something no one else agrees with or understands, it's more likely you're doing the wrong thing than everyone else is.

Some of your answers scream Fe to me. I underlined them. I would say you've got more Fe than Fi. Some of the others look like Si to me (comfort seeking habits, the childhood innocence answer), so I can see how you got ISFJ. Everyone uses every function, what's important is which are your preferred functions.
 

Drapeaux

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Based on those answers alone, I would agree with the assessment of Te rather than Fe. What is your reasoning for your belief in being an ISFJ?

Well, I believe that my Si combined with the ways I've been socialized as a male make my Fe appear more Te-like to people who don't know me well. My close friends and family tend to view me as ISFJ while those who fall more into the acquaintance area sometimes see Te. I feel and relate to the overarching social atmosphere greatly, and have a good degree of sensitivity, though I am so introverted that I tend to be rather closed off, which means people who don't know me sometimes get the opposite impression. Around people I'm comfortable with though, a more obvious manifestation of Fe tends to come out, and I feel much more comfortable that way.

One of my main goals in life and the way I want to make the world better is through psychology. So by helping people in a way that allows deviations to be drawn closer to the norm. I think that kind of social cohesion is incredibly important not only for communities but also for individuals. Because inner strength is only truly strong when it is acting in accordance with the inner strength of others.

Part of the reason I asked for feedback on my type here despite being rather certain in my own self assessment is because I want to make sure my view of typology isn't too much of an outlier and aligns with that of others.
 

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Because inner strength is only truly strong when it is acting in accordance with the inner strength of others.

This makes my high Fi cringe! ;)
 

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If your Fi is cringing, that makes my Fe cringe in sympathy.

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Dreamer

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Psh...and some people claim Fi and Fe peeps can’t learn to hug it out :D

For you Fi folks, that “hug” was a metaphorical one, and for you Fe folks, go ahead and revel in the physical expression of warmth and acceptance.
 

Satachi

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My last thought is whether you've considered the possibility of eSFJ - Fe, Si, Ne, Ti stacking.

But really, Fe makes sense when you put it in that context. I just find it interesting how you have gone down the path for Fe -> appearance of Te, while I've gone down the path of Fe influenced by Ti. Guessing enneagram makes a difference.

Si > Fe > Ti > Fi > Ni = Ne > Te > Se

compared to yours

Si > Fe > Te > Ne = Ni > Ti > Fi > Se
 

Drapeaux

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My last thought is whether you've considered the possibility of eSFJ - Fe, Si, Ne, Ti stacking.

But really, Fe makes sense when you put it in that context. I just find it interesting how you have gone down the path for Fe -> appearance of Te, while I've gone down the path of Fe influenced by Ti. Guessing enneagram makes a difference.

Si > Fe > Ti > Fi > Ni = Ne > Te > Se

compared to yours

Si > Fe > Te > Ne = Ni > Ti > Fi > Se

I have considered ESFJ, admittedly briefly, as I don't think my Fe is that strong and I'm definitely highly introverted. And that is interesting. What is your enneagram if you don't mind me asking? I'm unsure of mine.
 

Pionart

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Fe seems quite clear, and due to the focus on balancing it with logic, at well as things like looking before leaping, I would guess that it's auxiliary Fe.

For Ni versus Si, I'm not sure at the moment, but I will say that this:

Well, I believe that my Si combined with the ways I've been socialized as a male make my Fe appear more Te-like to people who don't know me well. My close friends and family tend to view me as ISFJ while those who fall more into the acquaintance area sometimes see Te. I feel and relate to the overarching social atmosphere greatly, and have a good degree of sensitivity, though I am so introverted that I tend to be rather closed off, which means people who don't know me sometimes get the opposite impression. Around people I'm comfortable with though, a more obvious manifestation of Fe tends to come out, and I feel much more comfortable that way.

seems like a similar line of reasoning to one which I would use.

What makes you think Si over Ni?
 

Drapeaux

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What makes you think Si over Ni?

I tend to fall back into comfort-seeking habits during times of stress and I like an organized external environment. I do think that when I look for social consensus, I am often testing my reality to see if it matches up with that of other people. That is to say, I tend to feel a bit wrong-footed about whether or not I'm perceiving things the same way everyone else is, but I always chalked that aspect up to being Fe auxiliary.
 

Pionart

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I tend to fall back into comfort-seeking habits during times of stress and I like an organized external environment. I do think that when I look for social consensus, I am often testing my reality to see if it matches up with that of other people. That is to say, I tend to feel a bit wrong-footed about whether or not I'm perceiving things the same way everyone else is, but I always chalked that aspect up to being Fe auxiliary.

I associate organising my external environment with when my Te+Si are active (I generally don't pay much attention to it), but apart from that I don't know what those things have to do with Si. I have pleasure/comfort-seeking habits as a result of Se, and the testing your reality against others' could easily be coming from a place of Ni making contact through an extroverted function.

Si is like... attention to detail, routine, to-do lists (not necessarily a literal to do list but having frequently in mind those things one must get around to doing). It's viewing the external environment with an idea already of how it should look. So, regarding organisation, you may have an idea of where everything should go, and you view the environment in terms of whether or not it matches up with that inner picture (contrast with Ni which does things with ideas - it has an idea of what form ideas should take and notes whether what's perceived matches up with that inner picture). Si is focused on maintaining the stability of something, whereas Ni is focused on the realisation of new insights regarding something, so Si checks that things are as they should be, Ni wonders what more there could be.

Everyone has all 8 functions of course, but for Ni dominant, Si is infrequent and lacks the kind of conscious control that a person has over their Ni, and vice versa for Si dominant. So an Si dominant would be constantly reviewing information to check that things line up as they should, and less frequently having speculations about the bigger picture, which are hard to get a hold of through intention.

Anyway, yeah, just a bit of Si versus Ni information that should be helpful. (again, I don't know which one you are, so I'm not intentionally trying to suggest that you're one or the other)

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Another Si versus Ni difference: Si is significantly linked with memories. It's about going back in your mind to how something was in the past and grabbing onto the details. Si dominants can generally remember things excellently, whereas Ni dominants are the types which have the hardest time reaching back into their memories to see how things were. Ni on the other hand is about envisioning new scenarios. It imagines something it hasn't imagined before, and is easily able to generate a possible story-line. Si dominants, then, would have the hardest time of any type with doing this.
 

Satachi

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I have considered ESFJ, admittedly briefly, as I don't think my Fe is that strong and I'm definitely highly introverted. And that is interesting. What is your enneagram if you don't mind me asking? I'm unsure of mine.

I'm most likely 6 (anxiety type). My tritype is 4,6,9. I rely a lot more on Fi/Ti because my Fe is somewhat broken (identify as an outsider in most social situations)

One of my cousin identifies as an ISFJ as well but he's a lot more social overall so I know there are tons of us with differences.

The stuff about injustice and perfection makes me think that you are most likely a 1w2, or a 2w1.
 

Starling

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I can't see much Te in your responses. Maybe there is more Fe than Fi. I could agree on ISFJ type for you.

Anyway, is it really important to be absolutely sure about one's type?

F. i., I usually score as INFJ, but I can see some ENFJ and sometimes ENFP too, probably because I standing somewhere on the line between E and I and J and P. Anyway, I feel strong when using my Ni and Fe, but I think I'm very good with my Ti and (when relaxed) I can cope with my Te as well (surprisingly). I enjoy using my Se (despite I'm not a prototype of an adventurer) and sometimes I surprise myself with my Si (usually when it comes to recalling old memories and details of situations which were somehow important for me).
 

Drapeaux

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I did some further reading on the differences between Si and Ni, and for now, I plan to stick with Si. I relate to both, but I relate to Si more in a practical sense, and I tend to value the practical. I also did some further reading into enneagram. I was caught between 1 and 5 previously, but upon further inspection, 1 seems more fitting overall, though I can definitely still see aspects of 5 in myself. I'm not entirely sold on 1w2 over 1w9, but time will tell I suppose.
 

badatlife

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Hmm, the J is obvious but I'm not sure of the Feeling. I was thinking INTJ or ISTJ?
 
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