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Jock-Nerd/Prep-Goth Test

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Normie

A Normie is often associated with conventional values, tastes, and interests and is seen as being part of a larger group that is just known for being normal. The term is often used pejoratively by people who see themselves as being outside the mainstream, but it can also be used in a neutral or positive way to describe someone who is well-adjusted and has a healthy sense of what is considered normal and acceptable in society.
 

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I actually hate most punk music and find it redundant and unoriginal. Rah rah down with the government rah rah we can only play three chords raaah. Rah rah we’re signed to a major corporate label and our songs appear in commercials and major motion pictures rah rah rah
 
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The Cat

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I actually hate most punk music and find it redundant and unoriginal. Rah rah down with the government rah rah we can only play three chords raaah. Rah rah we’re signed to a major corporate label and our songs appear in commercials and major motion pictures rah rah rah
I'll always associate punk with first love.
Push it out, fake a smile
Avert disaster just in time
I need a drink, 'cause in a while
Worthless answers from friends of mine
It's dumb to ask, cool to ignore
Girls possess me but they're never mine
I made my entrance, avoided hazards
Checked my engine I fell behind
I fell behind
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm a fuckin' boy
… Remember when I was in
The grocery store, now's my time
Lost the words, lost the nerve
Lost the girl, left the line
I would wish upon a star
But that star, it doesn't shine
So read my book with a boring ending
A short story of a lonely guy
Who fell behind
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm a fuckin' boy
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm still
Just a stupid, worthless boy​

I like Punk and Poppunk and emo music is generally where my favorite love songs live.

The fact that cinema and entertainment world like mining punk in an ironic out of context way because it resonates on some level in the mass audience...well that says more about the culture in which we live rather than an objective comment on the actual music apart from the fact that it fits in broader art and entertainment apart from just its original niche.

But if you really want to enjoy some acoustic folk punk, you might like Pat the Bunny.

If you like more classic Punk before New Punk came out in the 80's:


Redundant? How so? From my observations, I dare say its not, now more than ever these are the times that inspire punk music. the last time we were here culturally is when punk really broke away from rock into its own scene. As long as there are people society labels as punks the definition which is listed as a worthless person, they'll make music in defiance of that.
Unoriginal? As opposed to what? Most genres of music have an essence of auditory homage to other melodies, beats, and tempos. ie R&B, Road Rock, classical rock, Classical Music, Jazz, rap, ambient soundscapes, folk, choral music, religious hymns, and yes as always pop.​

Music is one of the sublime sciences
To be without a perception of the charms of Music is to be without the finer traits of humanity. It is the medium which gives the natural world communication with the spiritual, and few are they who have not felt its power and acknowledged its expressions to be intelligible to the heart. It is a language of delightful sensations, far more eloquent than words. It breathes to the ear the clearest intimations; it touches and gently agitates the agreeable and sublime passions; it wraps us in melancholy and elevates us to joy; it dissolves and inflames; it melts us in tenderness and excites us to war.

It has a voice for every age and a capacity for every degree of taste and intelligence. Its lullaby soothes the infant in its mother’s arms; its joyous notes wing the tripping feet of the dancers on the green; its martial tones inspire the spirit of patriotism, nerve the warrior’s arm, and fire his heart. The stirring strains of national airs, heard on the rough edge of battle, have ever thrilled the soldier, causing him to burn with an emulous desire to lead the perilous advance, and animating him to deeds of heroic valor and the most sublime devotion. Amid the roar of cannon, the din of musketry and the carnage of battle, he is stricken to the dust. Raising himself to take one last long look on life, he hears in the distance that plaintive strain, "Home, Sweet Home." It was our mother’s evening hymn, and has often lulled us to sleep in infancy. The mellowing tides of old cathedral airs, vibrating through aisles and arches, have stilled the ruffled spirit, and sweeping aside the discordant passions of men, have bourne them along its resistless current, until their united voices have joined in sounding aloud the chorus of the heaven-born anthem:
"Peace on earth, good will toward men."

For me Punk is one of those genres that brings focus to this though granted in a more rebellious way. I think maybe Dunstan Bruce may have put it best:
Truth is I thought it mattered
I thought that music mattered
But does it? Bollocks
Not compared to our people matter...

We'll be singing
When we're winning
We'll be singing

I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down

Even if it is just pissing the night away with some good friends as dystopia burns the world down around us and there's not much we can seemingly do about it.
 

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I'll always associate punk with first love.
Push it out, fake a smile
Avert disaster just in time
I need a drink, 'cause in a while
Worthless answers from friends of mine
It's dumb to ask, cool to ignore
Girls possess me but they're never mine
I made my entrance, avoided hazards
Checked my engine I fell behind
I fell behind
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm a fuckin' boy
… Remember when I was in
The grocery store, now's my time
Lost the words, lost the nerve
Lost the girl, left the line
I would wish upon a star
But that star, it doesn't shine
So read my book with a boring ending
A short story of a lonely guy
Who fell behind
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm a fuckin' boy
… She makes me feel like it's raining outside
And when the storm's gone, I'm all torn up inside
I'm always nervous on days like this, like the prom
I get too scared to move 'cause I'm still
Just a stupid, worthless boy​

I like Punk and Poppunk and emo music is generally where my favorite love songs live.

The fact that cinema and entertainment world like mining punk in an ironic out of context way because it resonates on some level in the mass audience...well that says more about the culture in which we live rather than an objective comment on the actual music apart from the fact that it fits in broader art and entertainment apart from just its original niche.

But if you really want to enjoy some acoustic folk punk, you might like Pat the Bunny.

If you like more classic Punk before New Punk came out in the 80's:


Redundant? How so? From my observations, I dare say its not, now more than ever these are the times that inspire punk music. the last time we were here culturally is when punk really broke away from rock into its own scene. As long as there are people society labels as punks the definition which is listed as a worthless person, they'll make music in defiance of that.
Unoriginal? As opposed to what? Most genres of music have an essence of auditory homage to other melodies, beats, and tempos. ie R&B, Road Rock, classical rock, Classical Music, Jazz, rap, ambient soundscapes, folk, choral music, religious hymns, and yes as always pop.​

Music is one of the sublime sciences
To be without a perception of the charms of Music is to be without the finer traits of humanity. It is the medium which gives the natural world communication with the spiritual, and few are they who have not felt its power and acknowledged its expressions to be intelligible to the heart. It is a language of delightful sensations, far more eloquent than words. It breathes to the ear the clearest intimations; it touches and gently agitates the agreeable and sublime passions; it wraps us in melancholy and elevates us to joy; it dissolves and inflames; it melts us in tenderness and excites us to war.

It has a voice for every age and a capacity for every degree of taste and intelligence. Its lullaby soothes the infant in its mother’s arms; its joyous notes wing the tripping feet of the dancers on the green; its martial tones inspire the spirit of patriotism, nerve the warrior’s arm, and fire his heart. The stirring strains of national airs, heard on the rough edge of battle, have ever thrilled the soldier, causing him to burn with an emulous desire to lead the perilous advance, and animating him to deeds of heroic valor and the most sublime devotion. Amid the roar of cannon, the din of musketry and the carnage of battle, he is stricken to the dust. Raising himself to take one last long look on life, he hears in the distance that plaintive strain, "Home, Sweet Home." It was our mother’s evening hymn, and has often lulled us to sleep in infancy. The mellowing tides of old cathedral airs, vibrating through aisles and arches, have stilled the ruffled spirit, and sweeping aside the discordant passions of men, have bourne them along its resistless current, until their united voices have joined in sounding aloud the chorus of the heaven-born anthem:
"Peace on earth, good will toward men."

For me Punk is one of those genres that brings focus to this though granted in a more rebellious way. I think maybe Dunstan Bruce may have put it best:
Truth is I thought it mattered
I thought that music mattered
But does it? Bollocks
Not compared to our people matter...

We'll be singing
When we're winning
We'll be singing

I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down

Even if it is just pissing the night away with some good friends as dystopia burns the world down around us and there's not much we can seemingly do about it.
sheesh, sorry if i hit a nerve.

I'm not saying I don't like some of it, I'm just not generally a fan of super aggressive stuff. Not to say I don't have moods when that sort of thing suits my ears.

I mean, I like plenty of new wave and some music that couldn't be called straight punk but certainly has punk in its DNA. I'm just disillusioned by the whole aspect of corporate commercialism as it pertains to music, and I think the song "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd really sums it up (a band I think was more punk in spirit than most punk bands of their day, despite sounding very un-punk and being regarded more as prog classicists):

Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been
You've been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn't like school
And you know you're nobody's fool
So welcome to the machine
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream
You dreamed of a big star
He played a mean guitar
He always ate in the Steak Bar
He loved to drive in his Jaguar
So welcome to the machine


It's great, imagine the lyrics as a pitch by some hip record company A&R man appealing to a young musician's sense of rebelliousness. Young rockers and popular musicians seemingly exist outside of the machinery of modern society, but ultimately they are just as much a part of the machine they seek to rebel against, and their music then serves as a useful tool and product to recruit other would-be rebels into the same machine. It's a vicious, ugly cycle, and I feel bad for the bands who get chewed up and used by that system. Not to say their messages are irrelevant and that they can't still subvert said system at times.

But I understand you get a different meaning out of the music, and that's good, as music should be enjoyed as a personal experience unique to every individual , and I respect that. We all find our own meaning in it
 

The Cat

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sheesh, sorry if i hit a nerve.

I'm not saying I don't like some of it, I'm just not generally a fan of super aggressive stuff. Not to say I don't have moods when that sort of thing suits my ears.

I mean, I like plenty of new wave and some music that couldn't be called straight punk but certainly has punk in its DNA. I'm just disillusioned by the whole aspect of corporate commercialism as it pertains to music, and I think the song "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd really sums it up (a band I think was more punk in spirit than most rock bands, despite sounding very un-punk):

Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been
You've been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn't like school
And you know you're nobody's fool
So welcome to the machine
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream
You dreamed of a big star
He played a mean guitar
He always ate in the Steak Bar
He loved to drive in his Jaguar
So welcome to the machine


It's great, imagine the lyrics as some hip record company A&R man appealing to a young musician's sense of rebelliousness. Young rockers seemingly exist outside of the machinery of modern society, but ultimately they are just as much a part of the machine they seek to rebel against, and their music then serves as a useful tool and product to recruit other would-be rebels into the same machine. It's a vicious, ugly cycle, and I feel bad for the bands who get chewed up and used by that system.

But I understand you get a different meaning out of the music, as music should be enjoyed as a personal experience, and I respect that.
I dont know why you would assume you hit a nerve? You're just usually good for an indepth geek out about pop culture in the arts so I figured this might be a thing we could geek out about. Anyone who isnt disillusioned by the machine we're born into isnt paying attention. I'm not a big fan of death metal as my masochism doesnt extend to my ears, but I dont tend to find most punk to be aggressive as much as simply energetic. But then I could have a somewhat skewed or blunted understanding of what constitutes as aggressive given my upbringing.
 

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I dont know why you would assume you hit a nerve? You're just usually good for an indepth geek out about pop culture in the arts so I figured this might be a thing we could geek out about. Anyone who isnt disillusioned by the machine we're born into isnt paying attention. I'm not a big fan of death metal as my masochism doesnt extend to my ears, but I dont tend to find most punk to be aggressive as much as simply energetic. But then I could have a somewhat skewed or blunted understanding of what constitutes as aggressive given my upbringing.
Perhaps it's a very specific type of punk that i don't like then. Very hardcore stuff with tons of screaming and screeching guitar tends to turn me off. I like the bouncier, poppier stuff just fine. I dug Rancid back in the day, they were actually pretty good at playing their instruments and had catchy music. Metal tends to get on my nerves more than punk as well.

I also like how punk, disco and funk all shaped and changed rock music in the late 70s. We wouldn't have gotten New Order, half the new wave bands, Talking Heads, etc if not for the influence of those genres. Not to mention bands like Pink Floyd started mimicking disco on songs like Another Brick in the Wall, and I think Animals is sort of a prog punk album. Rock was kind of stale before that
 

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LARP stands for Live Action Role-Playing. It is a form of role-playing where participants physically act out their characters' actions and interact with one another in a simulated world. In the Jock-Nerd/Prep-Goth Test, LARP should not be understood pejoratively or as exclusively pertaining to role-playing, but as someone who combines the geeky knowledge of nerds with the non-conformity of Goths to engage in gaming, fantasy-worlds and the like.
 

The Cat

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True Goths are known for their love of dark and brooding themes, as well as for their distinctive, alternative fashion style. Goths also tend to have a broader interest in themes such as death, the supernatural, and the occult. This often leads to a fascination with horror movies, gothic literature, and dark, atmospheric spaces such as graveyards and ruined buildings.
 
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LARP stands for Live Action Role-Playing. It is a form of role-playing where participants physically act out their characters' actions and interact with one another in a simulated world. In the Jock-Nerd/Prep-Goth Test, LARP should not be understood pejoratively or as exclusively pertaining to role-playing, but as someone who combines the geeky knowledge of nerds with the non-conformity of Goths to engage in gaming, fantasy-worlds and the like.
 

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I actually used to be Goth/Nerd in high school. But I have matured since then.

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Prep Nerds combine the preppy (polished, fashionable, and conventional) style with a passion and aptitude for academics or technology. Prep nerds embody two distinct styles and interests, which can sometimes be perceived as at odds with one another. They may thus come across as quirky rather than geeky.
 

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True Nerds are highly knowledgeable and enthusiastic about particular academic or technical subjects. Nerds are sometimes seen as being more interested in academics, technology, or other "nerdy" pursuits than in popular culture or mainstream social activities. Nerds often spend a lot of time and energy pursuing their interests, to the point where others can regard them as a bit obsessed with their hobbies.
 

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A Normie is often associated with conventional values, tastes, and interests and is seen as being part of a larger group that is just known for being normal. The term is often used pejoratively by people who see themselves as being outside the mainstream, but it can also be used in a neutral or positive way to describe someone who is well-adjusted and has a healthy sense of what is considered normal and acceptable in society.
 
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