Is America great now?

[Lark]

Granted much of this predates Trump but this is what the current issue comes down to - The GOP created this monster and allowed it to take over and now they don't know how to stop it. Frankly too many of their voters believe this insanity and now the GOP can't not run with the Trumptardation and that's going to be the case for some time going forward.

I would be fine calling their bluff at this point.

Its not without precedent though, remember how the Christian Coalition basically treated the GOP like a vassel and the GOP allowed it.

 

[Jaguar]

What comes next, the Texit movement?

Yes. And Tedzit will be leading the way.

 

[Firebird 8118]

I was with you until you got into the whole rich white straight cisgender stuff, that's a lot of garbled nonsense, Obama held office until the term limit was reached.

I also have no idea at all what relevance someones sexual orientation or attitudes to gender should have when it comes to the holding of office, those are, relatively speaking, gross minorities within the population, the deserve legal protection and do not deserve vilification as in the past (and sometimes the present), however, that representatives might resemble the majority more than select minorities, really does not surprise me at all, and its no injury or persecution to anyone per se that this should be so.

I'm waiting for the day that heterosexual candidates with opposite sex partners and traditional families will be considered discriminatory per se some how. I've already seen a shocking uptick in pretty neurotic behaviour among some friends who are closely aligned with the "pseudo-left" in their thinking, like they can not or will not post pictures of themselves with loved ones or their children on social media as they can not represent the alphabet soup constituency by doing so. That a full spectrum tolerance or multi-cultural society should be inclusive not only of minorities but also they themselves and the norms they abide by without a second thought isnt something that's really occurred to them. I find it really unfortunate as there is definitely a component who, when their best efforts to conform to the expectations of a community that is ambivalent about their even "belonging" fail there generally are some creepy far right elements happy to offer them a "new home" and tell them how the entire project they'd once valued was one colossal head fuck and monkey wrenching exercise anyway.

I think it does matter to include LGBTQ+ in this discussion, because apparently half the country still isn’t ready to accept a gay man running for President just as much as they aren’t ready to accept a woman. It matters just as much as immigration policies, police brutality, unemployment, greed and corruption from the elite, and many other issues.

Do you see where we stand right now? We have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court thanks to the Trump administration, and that shit isn’t going away for decades. And maybe I’m not as well-informed politically as most of the other members here - but from a spiritual standpoint, I can clearly see that we’ve evolved as much as kicking and screaming toddlers, and we have a much further way to go if we’re seeking to reach true “greatness” in this country.

 

[Merced]

What is Blue MAGA?

I just remembered to respond to this, sorry haha.

Blue MAGA is... sad.

Basically it's a nationalist movement but with a Democrat spin. Because now that the big bad Trump is out of office, all of America's problems are solved! Case closed folks, we DID IT!

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I just remembered to respond to this, sorry haha.

Blue MAGA is... sad.

Basically it's a nationalist movement but with a Democrat spin. Because now that the big bad Trump is out of office, all of America's problems are solved! Case closed folks, we DID IT!

Why not Hillary's brilliant game-changing "America is already great"?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Truly we have a robust choice of compelling options here.

 

[Merced]

Why not Hillary's brilliant game-changing "America is already great"?

Every time I start to think she didn't lose on purpose, I get reminded that she absolutely had to have lost on purpose. There's no way she countered "Make America Great Again" with "America is already great" and thought it was good optics on any side of the political spectrum.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Every time I start to think she didn't lose on purpose, I get reminded that she absolutely had to have lost on purpose. There's no way she countered "Make America Great Again" with "America is already great" and thought it was good optics on any side of the political spectrum.

I think she and the people around her could actually be that dumb and out of touch, actually.

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"I may not be Dale Earnhardt, but I smashed into a fucking wall cause I couldn't turn left"

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

But no it was totes all russia so they could give Cuba time to develop the headache gum.

 

[ceecee]

UK focus but it's the same in the US. And for those who always wondered if 'trickle down' was a bad idea, but needed some seriously sophisticated stats to be persuaded of the case - Voila:

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf

It goes to the top, stays at the top.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

UK focus but it's the same in the US. And for those who always wondered if 'trickle down' was a bad idea, but needed some seriously sophisticated stats to be persuaded of the case - Voila:

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf

It goes to the top, stays at the top.

This is something I think would be worthwhile for me to study. Seems about up my alley.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

oh dang, study from the London School of Eco-Gnome-ics

obligatory Bowie reference

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

 

[Jaguar]

Yeah, we're great. Hack away. No one will care.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I have a hard time considering a country great that presented us with a binary choice between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. If this was the best the" greatest country in the world" could produce, I have to doubt that designation.

 

[ceecee]

If you ever wondered why Americans are so hated by so many, here ya go.

https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/

 

[Firebird 8118]

If you ever wondered why Americans are so hated by so many, here ya go.

The CIA’s Afghan Death Squads

WTF

 

[Tomb1]

Things will get uglier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...risis-is-coming-we-have-barely-begun-face-it/

 

[Stigmata]

Things will get uglier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...risis-is-coming-we-have-barely-begun-face-it/

No doubt. The day after Christmas will the detonation of the atom bomb of homelessness. The moratoriums just delayed the inevitable because of how shortsighted the government was to believe everything would just be restored back to normal by the end of the year, meanwhile things are now more dire than they were even back in March, all while lots of industries were never really able to get restarted due to the pandemic, thus preventing people from catching up on the wages they missed as this whole of debt continued to be dug with their missed rent payments.

 

[Mole]

Things will get uglier.

This will seem like a picnic if the Reserve Currency of the World, the US dollar, collapses and most suffer a preciptate drop in their standard of living.