Multiple Enneagram Subtypes/Instincts Instinct Stacking Correlation with MBTI

[Kierva]

I never said that. take Sean Connery for instance, an ENTJ 8w9 Sx/Sp

Never said you said it; only an inference.

 

[Elfboy]

Never said you said it; only an inference.

I didn't infer anything. I stated a correlation, not an absolute. there is a difference between saying
"All ENTJs are Sx Last" and
"ENTJs are more likely to be Sx last"

 

[Kierva]

I didn't infer anything. I stated a correlation, not an absolute. there is a difference between saying
"All ENTJs are Sx Last" and
"ENTJs are more likely to be Sx last"

*facepalm*

I think I should have made it clear; I made an inference. (communication fail i need to be better at this im a fucking comm stoodint!!!!1)

And btw you did not state that explicitly prior to my post.

 

[Elfboy]

*facepalm*

I think I should have made it clear; I made an inference. (communication fail i need to be better at this im a fucking comm stoodint!!!!1)

And btw you did not state that explicitly prior to my post.

I don't need to state it explicitly. it's in the title
"Instinct Stacking Correlation with MBTI"
if I were implying that there was a direct correlation, I would have said
"Instinct Stacking Direct Correlation with MBTI"
correlation does not equal causation

 

[Kierva]

I don't need to state it explicitly. it's in the title
"Instinct Stacking Correlation with MBTI"
if I were implying that there was a direct correlation, I would have said
"Instinct Stacking Direct Correlation with MBTI"
correlation does not equal causation

See, interpretations and miscommunication is a bitch.

 

[Elfboy]

See, interpretations and miscommunication is a bitch.

mmhmm especially since English is your second language

 

[Elfboy]

See, interpretations and miscommunication is a bitch.

part of it is being NTJ. ENFPs are one of the best types at making distinctions in what people say because it is comparison oriented by nature. Ni users see what "is" albeit they see it on a conceptual level as opposed to an SP who sees it physically. therefore, you're less likely to notice smaller distinctions like the difference between a the two statements I posted earlier. my INTJ friend have this problem all the time (although he's solid with this particular concept. once he gets a distinction, he gets it. he just needs me to point it out sometimes)

 

[Chiharu]

Most of the INFPs I know are sx/so...

 

[Kierva]

mmhmm especially since English is your second language

part of it is being NTJ. ENFPs are one of the best types at making distinctions in what people say because it is comparison oriented by nature. Ni users see what "is" albeit they see it on a conceptual level as opposed to an SP who sees it physically. therefore, you're less likely to notice smaller distinctions like the difference between a the two statements I posted earlier. my INTJ friend have this problem all the time (although he's solid with this particular concept. once he gets a distinction, he gets it. he just needs me to point it out sometimes)

I facepalmed at the first statement.

English is the first language of the nation and is the language of business, government and medium of instruction in schools.

Please get your facts right.
http://ipcgroup.com.sg/singapore.html

part of it is being NTJ.

Ni users see what "is" albeit they see it on a conceptual level as opposed to an SP who sees it physically.

NTJ =/= SP

ENFPs are one of the best types at making distinctions in what people say because it is comparison oriented by nature.

Basis? In what way does Ne Fi Te Si have to do with comparison?

therefore, you're less likely to notice smaller distinctions like the difference between a the two statements I posted earlier.

I just did noticed a small distinction, bolded. Does that make me an ENFP? That sentence is not grammatically correct.

 

[Elfboy]

I facepalmed at the first statement.
Please get your facts right.
http://ipcgroup.com.sg/singapore.html
NTJ =/= SP
Basis? In what way does Ne Fi Te Si have to do with comparison?
I just did noticed a small distinction, bolded. Does that make me an ENFP? That sentence is not grammatically correct.

you just did it again

 

[Elfboy]

ESTJ: So/Sp
ISTJ: Sp/So
ESFJ: So/Sx
ISFJ: So/Sx

ESFP: So/Sx
ISFP: Sx/Sp
ESTP: Sx/So
ISTP: Sx/Sp

ENFJ: So/Sx
INFJ: Sp/Sx
ENFP: So/Sx
INFP: Sx/Sp

ENTP: Sp/So
INTP: Sp/So
ENTJ: Sp/So
INTJ: Sp/Sx

general correlations
So: E, SF
Sp: I, NT
Sx: FP, SP

 

[pinkgraffiti]

You have:
- 6 So/Sx
- 1 So/Sp

- 4 Sp/So
- 2 Sp/Sx

- 3 Sx/Sp
- 1 Sx/So

You have:
11 Sx
11 So
10 Sp

Is there any reason why each combination has different frequencies of distribution? You gave the individual stackings equal distribution. So are you making a statement? Is it proven that certain combinations (So/Sx followed by Sp/So and then Sx/Sp) are more frequent? Also, you gave more importance of Sp as a dominant stacking (8) followed by So (7) and then Sx (4). Likewise, are you saying Sx-doms are a minority? This doesn't make much sense since you associate them with SP, that are very common in the population....actually, if this logic is to make sense then Sp-doms should be the less common type....

 

[Northern Lights]

I was just thinking about this! There are already a lot of threads correlating enneagram and mbti, but I didn’t see one for instinctual variants. Interesting....

Just because things can be correlated doesn't mean they should be correlated. This seems to me to be particularly true for instinctual variants, at least based on the OP which looks like nonsense to me.

 

[RadicalDoubt]

This is my interpretation in terms of most likely blindspot:

ISFJ: sx > so > sp
ISTJ: sx > so > sp
ESTJ: sx > so > sp
ENTJ: sx > sp > so

INFJ: sx > so > sp
INTJ: so > sx > sp
ENTJ: sx > sp > so
ENFJ: sx > sp > so

ISFP: (I actually have no clue... Statistically, just because the most common blindspot is sx probably that but ISFPs are very versatile it appears)
ISTP: so > sx > sp
ESFP: sp > sx > so
ESTP: sx > sp > so

INFP: sx > sp > so
INTP: so > sx > sp
ENTP: sx > sp > so
ENFP: sp > sx > so

Generally speaking I've noted:
- Pi doms are very unlikely to have a sp blindspot
- sx blindness is very common
- Extroverts are more likely to have a sp blindspot than introverts (so/sx and sx/so are the most relationally oriented types anyhow)
- Technically no type combination is impossible, so if you go against this list like... That doesn't mean you're mistyped because this is super general and also the two theories are separate and should be considered as such
- Although I listed sx blind as the most common variant, soc blindness is fairly common among Ni doms in a way that is comparable to the amount of sx blinds of these types
- The ISxP types are probably the most variable in terms of commonality of IV

This is based on both experience and just my interpretation of the theory as a whole in terms of probability. Again, the theories are separate so like... Just because there's probably a bit of a correlation doesn't entirely mean much, but can be sort of helpful for those new to the theory. Take it as you may.

 

[notmyapples]

INTP: so > sx > sp

It's definitely more common for INTPs to be sx-blind over so-blind because the majority of them are 5s and sx 5s are countertype.

 

[Peter Deadpan]

No no no no no noooooo no. No.

 

[RadicalDoubt]

It's definitely more common for INTPs to be sx-blind over so-blind because the majority of them are 5s and sx 5s are countertype.

You're probably right; I was going back and forth between the two