kyuuei
Emperor/Dictator
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1. See title for reference. When you debate, do you take back and white, cold calculations and generalizations, or do you put your personal experiences into what you do and think?
2. Do other people doing this annoy you? Example.
Person 1: I don't think this is right because it sucks.
Person 2: It is right regardless of if it sucks or not.
Person 1: Well I've lived it before, and I know it sucks, so you can't just say it like it's nonchalant.
Person 2:
3. Do you think personal experience and emotions run closely together during debates? And if so, do those emotions discredit the situation?
During another thread, and others before it, I've used my personal experiences as a reference point. Trying to empathize with the overall picture based on what I've experienced. It's been pointed out to me several times that I've taken situations personally (to me, I've only ever had one thread get too personal and I opted out of it when it created a negative response from me) while debating.. and while I admit I made them personal in the sense that I don't allow my experiences to be discredited during a debate.. I didn't think that this was the same as being emotional or taking things personal.
But I find that frequently people mistake my insisting that experience plays a large part in things as taking things personally, and when someone tells me that it's like magic words. If you want me to shut up quickly about something, just tell me that you think I'm being overly emotional about a subject and I'll stop debating it that instant. I'm not sure why I react like this.. I think because I feel like the instant people sense emotion behind a point they stop listening.. but I wonder if others have this problem.
I like to debate, and I'll throw things I don't mind being attacked into the mix if I feel it helps illustrate a point. What-if scenarios I've seen from others, the experiences I've come across, and the things I've seen and done myself of course. But I feel like sometimes people want a cold, black-and-white scenarios and specifics, and when I throw those things in there to shake it up they dismiss it. At least, that's how I see it.
So..
4. Does what I've described above happen to you? Or do you tend to get annoyed when others debate like that?
2. Do other people doing this annoy you? Example.
Person 1: I don't think this is right because it sucks.
Person 2: It is right regardless of if it sucks or not.
Person 1: Well I've lived it before, and I know it sucks, so you can't just say it like it's nonchalant.
Person 2:
3. Do you think personal experience and emotions run closely together during debates? And if so, do those emotions discredit the situation?
During another thread, and others before it, I've used my personal experiences as a reference point. Trying to empathize with the overall picture based on what I've experienced. It's been pointed out to me several times that I've taken situations personally (to me, I've only ever had one thread get too personal and I opted out of it when it created a negative response from me) while debating.. and while I admit I made them personal in the sense that I don't allow my experiences to be discredited during a debate.. I didn't think that this was the same as being emotional or taking things personal.
But I find that frequently people mistake my insisting that experience plays a large part in things as taking things personally, and when someone tells me that it's like magic words. If you want me to shut up quickly about something, just tell me that you think I'm being overly emotional about a subject and I'll stop debating it that instant. I'm not sure why I react like this.. I think because I feel like the instant people sense emotion behind a point they stop listening.. but I wonder if others have this problem.
I like to debate, and I'll throw things I don't mind being attacked into the mix if I feel it helps illustrate a point. What-if scenarios I've seen from others, the experiences I've come across, and the things I've seen and done myself of course. But I feel like sometimes people want a cold, black-and-white scenarios and specifics, and when I throw those things in there to shake it up they dismiss it. At least, that's how I see it.
So..
4. Does what I've described above happen to you? Or do you tend to get annoyed when others debate like that?