[MBTI General] How Does One Deal With Heartbreak and Is Psychological Pain Necessarily Part Of It?

[Winds of Thor]

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[Xellotath]

Are you asking if there's a purely rational [no psychological pain] way to deal with an inherently emotional reaction [heartbreak]?

Edit: It just seems like a contradiction in terms. What part of the words Heart/Break/ are you not getting? To say can you be heartbroken without being broken... is silly. Can you be sad without being sad?

Oh you silly NTs....

Ok.

Well, in case you're in pain just solve everything the rational way. Tell yourself that emotions are nothing more than nervous reactions in the autonomic nervous system and ta-da!

I'm a liar

 

[Moiety]

Vicodin, scotch, one-night stands and punk music.

 

[Totenkindly]

I think the best way to deal with heartbreak is to embrace it, figure out what it means and why you're upset, let it run its course... then let it go and move forward.

 

[Kyrielle]

I think the best way to deal with heartbreak is to embrace it, figure out what it means and why you're upset, let it run its course... then let it go and move forward.

This.

Heartbreak is a grieving process. There is no way to really avoid the pain of it as you are dealing with the loss of something important to you. The relationship, and the person you were with, have died in a way. While the person is not physically dead to you, your closeness to them is. Even if you become friends afterwards, it's still going to hurt because it will not be the same level of intimacy.

 

[Synarch]

I think you sound ready to live.

On your knees is the place to start. You have seen the limits of self. Now you can stand and stride forward.





I'm sure you're sincere as you're an ENTP and incapable of irony or subtlety, but you may be elevating INFJ women to an extreme degree, though I cannot disagree with you.

 

[Synarch]

Shoot!

Psychological pain is part and parcel of life. It's the way you deal with it that matters. ENTP (especially 7w8) often flee from pain, hence some of the addictive nature of our pursuits, always chasing the "fun". Compulsively even. Embracing pain is your salvation.

Again I am reminded of the Kafka quote:

"You can hold yourself back from the sufferings of the world, that is something you are free to do and it accords with your nature, but perhaps this very holding back is the one suffering you could avoid."

 

[Lauren Ashley]

Vicodin, scotch, one-night stands and punk music.

Taking lessons from House are we?

 

[Synarch]

Taking lessons from House are we?

House is unhealthy. Otherwise, there would be no reason to have a show. Watching healthy people live is not interesting. There is no conflict. No struggle with the darker forces.

 

[Nyota]

House is unhealthy. Otherwise, there would be no reason to have a show. Watching healthy people live is not interesting. There is no conflict. No struggle with the darker forces.

House is REAL.... which is what we like to watch. Same with everything else; we enjoy things that can be applicable to our lives.
[wait... we're not in the actual House thread. how'd this happen?]

 

[Synarch]

House is REAL.... which is what we like to watch. Same with everything else; we enjoy things that can be applicable to our lives.
[wait... we're not in the actual House thread. how'd this happen?]

Lauren derailed this shizz.

 

[Phantonym]

Watching healthy people live is not interesting. There is no conflict. No struggle with the darker forces.

What is healthy anyway? To whose standards? I tend to think that everybody is broken. Some are more, some are less. What matters is how they deal with it.


What comes to heartbreak and dealing with it, I agree with Jennifer that it should be embraced, figured out and then let go.

Psychological pain is definitely a part of it. You only get your heart broken when you let people close to your heart. It's actually the analyzing part that hurts the most, going over every little detail and figuring out why this happened. However, this is necessary and a part of the letting go process.

 

[jenocyde]

Give me a break... are you setting a trap? Are you actually heartbroken or just trying to lure in an INFJ woman? You seem to be holding up well. :rolli:

 

[Synarch]

Give me a break... are you setting a trap? Are you actually heartbroken or just trying to lure in an INFJ woman? You seem to be holding up well. :rolli:

Cock blocker.

What is healthy anyway? To whose standards? I tend to think that everybody is broken. Some are more, some are less. What matters is how they deal with it.


What comes to heartbreak and dealing with it, I agree with Jennifer that it should be embraced, figured out and then let go.

Psychological pain is definitely a part of it. You only get your heart broken when you let people close to your heart. It's actually the analyzing part that hurts the most, going over every little detail and figuring out why this happened. However, this is necessary and a part of the letting go process.

I don't think of broken or unbroken. I think of people who want to be healthy and those that have given up. Otherwise, I think I agree with you.

 

[jenocyde]

Cock blocker.

Damn skippy. If I have to work so hard for my INFJ, I'll be damned if he gets it so easy...



btw, I should mention, he's not technically my INFJ yet, so I'm actually still available if there are any interested INFJ male parties out there. *coughs*

 

[Synarch]

Damn skippy. If I have to work so hard for my INFJ, I'll be damned if he gets it so easy...



btw, I should mention, he's not technically my INFJ yet, so I'm actually still available if there are any interested INFJ male parties out there. *coughs*

FAIL.

 

[jenocyde]

FAIL.

I'm obviously not even trying. If I were, I would have posted a prayer. But he beat me to it, so...

 

[FemMecha]

When the mind and emotions are in a state of anxiety and distress, the natural tendency is towards exaggerated thinking and tunnel vision. People often agonize themselves after a heartbreak by having moments when they only remember the bad and start to become overwhelmed with bitterness and anger, or the opposite, they remember only the beautiful cherished moments and heighten their sense of loss.

There can also be a problem with projecting into the future. Feeling loss of an idealized future is irrational. The relationship ended because that idealized future was not an option.

By holding your mind steady and remembering the good with the bad you realize that while there is some loss, there is also something to be gained. It holds anger and grief in check and you realize this was simply a necessary step in life.

 

[Synarch]

Thank you Synarch

Good luck! You won't need it.

I'm obviously not even trying. If I were, I would have posted a prayer. But he beat me to it, so...

Why can't you be happy for people?

 

[Phantonym]

I don't think of broken or unbroken. I think of people who want to be healthy and those that have given up.

You're right. That's a better approach. I think I might adopt it.