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Eagle

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It's interesting. I take a step back from it all; my beliefs, my thoughts, my biases. I place myself in others shoes. All I come up with is that people are fools. There are smart people, but all I've found is that the more people seek after knowledge the more foolish and engrossed they become. I like being smart and it gets you places in this world. However, I think that wisdom will take you further. I would exchange all of my knowledge for wisdom. It would be the better choice. Wisdom is not so easily earned, but knowledge is gained every day.

As a partial attachment and side note I'm about done if not done with the religion thread. People are to engraved with their way of thinking and their perceptions to try and even see my views. Converting people wasn't my goal, but it's nice in a discussion for others to attempt to understand what the other person is saying. Some people where attempting to under stand, others weren't, etc. It's not worth the energy to maintain. People say something contradicts something, or that another doesn't make sense yet they do not have the context to determine whether it does or does not. People need to gather as much information as possible and use wisdom to determine whether it does or not. It's not just that they are attacking my beliefs. I can set those feelings aside for a while... But, eventually it's just enough.
I've had my beliefs since I can remember. Not because of my parents, but because of my choice. My beliefs are me. They define me. Eventually enough is enough and I just have to proverbially "walk away."
 

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Makes a lot of sense. Last night's Ventrilo conversation sort of could have been an extension of that thread, but it didn't start out that way. And as is the case often, more people were listening than the people discussing, so my hope is not really that I convinced the people I was arguing with of anything, but that others listening might have at least gained a bit of new perspective, and maybe even a little wisdom as you say. :)
 

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I don't think I was there for that discussion
 

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What are knowledge and wisdom?
 

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It depends on what your perception is.
 

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What is your perception of knowledge and wisdom?
 

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See the book of Ecclesiastes.
Wisdom and Knowledge are worthless without something. Though wisdom is better than than knowledge. It has greater returns. Though in the end they are both meaningless without God.

Wisdom is the quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight.

Knowledge is just knowing.

I would rather know the best way to do something over just knowing a way how to do something.

That's not all of it. There is quite a bit more. But it at least relays part of my points, hopefully.
 

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I'm with you on that Eagle. Being wise is far better than just having knowledge.
 
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