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Pat Wyman wrote an interesting book that I read a number of years ago on the MBTI type, Enneagram and how they relate to each other. She's just written an article about Hilary Clinton which describes her as an INTJ Enneagram 3. I thought her points were interesting. I have long thought she is an INTJ in part because of how unpopular she is. The article describes at first the bias in society against women who have a preference for Thinking over Feeling. While men who prefer Feeling experience a similar bias, she asserts that it's worse for the women. She says Extraverted Feeling is the function most commonly and culturally associated with women, which does sound about right. Apparently furthering Hilary's challenges is that she is so not an SJ. A few quotes from the article:
"Someone like Hillary is fighting more than the cultural female stereotype which causes her to be criticized for not being warm and caring but moreover prohibits a woman from being objective and analytical. We live in a culture designed and controlled by those with the SJ or Sensing/Judging Temperament. SJs are traditionalists who stabilize our society with structure, policies, procedures, rules and regulations. "
"When Hillary stands before the Thinking function of an STJ society, that Thinking function evaluates her according to the STJ values of our society at large. She does not personify the culturally valued feminine qualities and so she gets a failing grade, regardless of her qualifications and experience. Meanwhile, Donald Trump can say the most outrageous things and contradict himself repeatedly but he can get away with it all because, as an ESTJ, he embodies the values of our STJ society. "
"If that weren’t enough to garner her a 58% disapproval rating (at this writing), Hillary is an INTJ (disclosed by her). NTs, or the Intuitive/Thinking Temperament, are known for valuing competency, professionalism, autonomy, independence and mastery. Because of their need to be seen as intelligent and competent, they can unintentionally appear to be aloof or arrogant. When a woman who embodies all these qualities presents herself to an STJ society, the Thinking function assesses her according to the values of the SJ Temperament. Not much can be more threatening to a society that values a doting Nancy Reagan than an NT Hillary Clinton.
One of the best things I saw in her book was these charts. Take a look and see if you agree that it characterizes her properly. If I recall correctly, she took the position that the Enneagram type had a negative influence on who we were and that you should aspire to be more like your MBTI type, which we will become if conquer the demons of our Enneagram tendencies by becoming aware of them. It had something to do with our inner child and some other things I can't recall. I'm not sure if the theory is correct but it was an interesting anyway.
"Someone like Hillary is fighting more than the cultural female stereotype which causes her to be criticized for not being warm and caring but moreover prohibits a woman from being objective and analytical. We live in a culture designed and controlled by those with the SJ or Sensing/Judging Temperament. SJs are traditionalists who stabilize our society with structure, policies, procedures, rules and regulations. "
"When Hillary stands before the Thinking function of an STJ society, that Thinking function evaluates her according to the STJ values of our society at large. She does not personify the culturally valued feminine qualities and so she gets a failing grade, regardless of her qualifications and experience. Meanwhile, Donald Trump can say the most outrageous things and contradict himself repeatedly but he can get away with it all because, as an ESTJ, he embodies the values of our STJ society. "
"If that weren’t enough to garner her a 58% disapproval rating (at this writing), Hillary is an INTJ (disclosed by her). NTs, or the Intuitive/Thinking Temperament, are known for valuing competency, professionalism, autonomy, independence and mastery. Because of their need to be seen as intelligent and competent, they can unintentionally appear to be aloof or arrogant. When a woman who embodies all these qualities presents herself to an STJ society, the Thinking function assesses her according to the values of the SJ Temperament. Not much can be more threatening to a society that values a doting Nancy Reagan than an NT Hillary Clinton.
One of the best things I saw in her book was these charts. Take a look and see if you agree that it characterizes her properly. If I recall correctly, she took the position that the Enneagram type had a negative influence on who we were and that you should aspire to be more like your MBTI type, which we will become if conquer the demons of our Enneagram tendencies by becoming aware of them. It had something to do with our inner child and some other things I can't recall. I'm not sure if the theory is correct but it was an interesting anyway.
I don't think he could be any more of a Perceiver. He's completely scatterbrained and does not believe in preparing for things. He changes his mind on issues every 5 minutes or so because he has no real principals. Call it ideological ADD. 
