think I'm going to try on sx/sp for a while instead of sp/sx. the videos Speed sent me on 4w3 sx/sp scared me how much they were like me
Do you usually focus on intimacy issues? That's what you once said characterized Sx types...
Also, just for the record, I still kinda think 3w4 is a possibility. Being an ENFP, you probably don't resemble most Threes, but something struck me a while ago - you said you had lots of passion ambition, but felt like you didn't have a lot of feelings.... *Plus, you don't talk a lot about personal feelings on this forum, and you seldom show negativity or sadness... A lot of 3w4s can have a feisty, independent streak, for what it's worth - think Miranda Priestley from The Devil Wears Prada. Like I said, this is just my opinion on a possibility.If Threes are an inherently "bad" type, maybe the Ennegram has more than a few flaws...
nd ambition, but felt like you didn't have a lot of feelings... * * I apologize if I misquoted you.
I talk about my feelings all the the time, just look at the number of threads I'm startedPlus, you don't talk a lot about personal feelings on this forum, and you seldom show negativity or sadness
sort of, but I think this was a naive comment on my part. I am noticing more and more that I do crave disappointed by my culture's lack of romantic tastes, sensuality and sense of grandeur/drama. america is so dry and plane and lacks flair and style. it feels like I'm living in a wasteland sometimes. europe for example has much stronger Sx tendencies routed in it's culture.Do you usually focus on intimacy issues? That's what you once said characterized Sx types...
- if I'm a 3, I'm not a very healthy 3. 3s seem to have an endless supply of motivation and have no problem finding something productive to do. I have been known to sit in my room for days and not do anything if nothing peeks my interests. my drive comes in great bursts that last 1-10 days, but overall I'm more reclusive.
- I say that my passion and ambition are unlimited because I never fully give up on them. I might stop temporarily, but I don't have a tendency to give up on things, this is more like a persistant 4 than a 3. 4s have trouble doing anything they aren't passionate about, that's why they frequently become starving artists.
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I talk about my feelings all the the time, just look at the number of threads I'm started![]()
Ah, okay. I thought you were more focused on productivity, since you talk quite a lot about enterpreneurship.
You are quite candid with your opinions and life experiences, but I'd say you are less focused on your personal feelings, insecurities, internal obstacles, relationships, etc. You seem to prefer being upbeat and outspoken. Just my 2¢.![]()
Have you ever thought about having your own forum?
Define "profitable."
Have you always been so fond of money or it's a recent thing?
I don't exhibit the more stereotypical SJ type of 1 behaviors, I'm not a perfectionist by any sense of the word and I don't care for details, but do have a lot of more NFP-ish 1 qualities
- ever since I can remember, I've been enamored with the idea of heroism
- your typical, accepting ENFP is just not me. I don't except people who don't meet my standards (which are almost exclusively internal)
- I have been told on several occasions that I would make a wonderful cult leader
- very picky about things that I know a lot about. poorly prepared tea or opera sung without proper technique just won't do
- I have very premeditated morals and I am not politically correct in expressing them
- mercy is not my thing, actions yield consequences; injustice deserves punishment
- under stress, I become increasingly vindictive, condemning and merciless
- during a period in middle school, I went through a conservative christian phase to the extreme. I believed prostitutes should be stoned, thieves should be executed and the US government should be reorganized into a theocracy. I was openly sexist and condemning of everything and everyone who didn't meet my moral expectations. in the end, I followed Evangelical Christianity to it's logical conclusion, which ended up being against my values, so, to the shock of my peers, I did a complete 180 and became a libertarian deist
- not sure if this is important, but enneagram 1 is supposedly correlated with Te and my Te is pretty kickass =D
- again, I'm not sure if this is related, but I don't understand how someone could possibly be a pacifist. the idea of crimes going unpunished is deeply unsettling to me
- people without integrity and some sort of solid values disgust me. if you don't respect yourself, why should I give you any?
- I use a lot of 1-ish words such as unacceptable, disgusting, dispicable, justice, conviction and a slew of other intense words that people tend to shy away from
- on a more more shallow note, my online user names tend to be extremely 1-ish (Swordsman of Mana, Prince of Light, White Swordsman, Elfboy)
so do you think I'm a 1 or just an ENFP with overextended Fi/Te
other possibilities are:
- I'm a 4w3 with a strong growth to 1
- I'm an unusually theatrical 8 with strong Fi
- I have an overdeveloped tertiary that makes me look more J/1-ish
- I'm in STJ stress mode that makes me look more like a 1
- I'm a 7w8 disintegrated to 1
- I'm a 3w4 with a moralistic bent that looks like a 1
Sexual/Self-pres
This subtype is a very charismatic. They have a very assertive energy and they demand attention. The lust of the Eight combines with the sexual instinct to make one of the most fiery of the combinations of all of the enneatypes, especially if Seven is the dominant wing. Sexual/self-pres Eights aren’t afraid to tell you what they think. The "can do" attitude that the other subtypes have is now intertwined with an outward passionate storm of energy. The sexual/self-pres Eight will be similar to the self-pres/sex Eight with respect to interests and attachment to close friends and family, but the intensity level is augmented. Since the sexual instinct is first, these Eights usually don't let an opportunity pass by to connect with those they find interesting. They can sense the power in any situation and they like to challenge people. They can enjoy making others react to them, keeping others on their toes, to find out what makes them tick. They are likely to use humor to accomplish this. When sex/self-pres Eights are unbalanced, they are very quick to anger and have a difficult time controlling their impulses.
actually, I'm looking more at 9 now. how did I ever think I was a 3? my default state is the opposite of a 3. 3s constantly want to be productive and achieving, my natural state is absolutely nothing. if I am not motivated to do anything, I will do just that. when I'm on autopilot, I sit in my room, drink tea, hang out of Type C and maybe watch a documentary. I am assertive because my core motivation is to be left in pleasant harmony without disturbances. the trouble is, I've grown jaded about reality because almost everything around me is a disturbance. schedules, people, work of any kind. most people have to work hard, I have to work hard in order to work hard. it's like it takes double the energy for me to do anything. my 8 wing seems unusually prominent because my default view of people is "what do you want? thank you and goodbye" or "don't do that, you're disturbing me"
Do you find it easy to get started, or do you find yourself in states of extreme rest followed by extreme action? That is the inertia of the 9, not laziness, anyone can relax, for example, 8s are very good at relaxing, they can spend a lot of energy to make sure they and those under their wing are comfortable (ime).
That doesn't seem like an 8 wing to me, that completely contradicts the core of 9. 9 wont tell people that they are being disturbed, for 9s, it is all about what everyone else wants. They will try to satisfy other peoples needs before their own... they might not even know what their needs are.