ESTP "conversation": "FUCK FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS GOD DAMN IT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE OFF RIGHT NOW. SHIT. FUCKIN' PIECES OF SHIT. FUCKING ASSHOLES! *throws something on the ground* GRAAAAAAAAA! Hey, I'm not mad at you, don't worry."
They seem to always fall into the thinking-i-give-a-shit-about-them-trap, which annoys me. Like in your example, all of their coworkers may be enduring the same exact situation as them, but since everyone else realizes ranting about it like they're so fucking special and uniquely traumatized would only make things worse, they know how to keep their mouths shut.ESTP "conversation": "FUCK FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS GOD DAMN IT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE OFF RIGHT NOW. SHIT. FUCKIN' PIECES OF SHIT. FUCKING ASSHOLES! *throws something on the ground* GRAAAAAAAAA! Hey, I'm not mad at you, don't worry."
They seem to always fall into the thinking-i-give-a-shit-about-them-trap, which annoys me. Like in your example, all of their coworkers may be enduring the same exact situation as them, but since everyone else realizes ranting about it like they're so fucking special and uniquely traumatized would only make things worse, they know how to keep their traps shut.
In normal conversations, the everyone-gives-a-shit-about-how-fucking-special-my-mundane-life-is-syndrome amounts to talking enthusiastically and filling every otherwise peacefully silent pause with a vast array of fascinating and universally relatable topics ranging from "I like appletinis" to "my cat has a bladder infection".
You just described the prototypical ISTP.
Congratulations, you're on the first step to recovery!
They seem to always fall into the thinking-i-give-a-shit-about-them-trap, which annoys me. Like in your example, all of their coworkers may be enduring the same exact situation as them, but since everyone else realizes ranting about it like they're so fucking special and uniquely traumatized would only make things worse, they know how to keep their mouths shut.
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You don't sound like an ESTP to me.
I'm and ESTP and I feel like my conversations aren't as good as they should be. I'm more of the guy who gets straight to the point and doesn't give too many details (unless they ask). But my biggest thing is that I sometimes have a problem with starting topics. I'm so in-tuned to my environment that I find myself forgetting there's a person around to talk to. When someone brings up a topic, I can talk about it and run along with it. It's just starting them. Any others have this problem and what do you do?
I wrote this when I was stressed out. I look back and I realized I was self-conscious at the time. Shit's better for me now
Also, this thread brought all of the ESTP's out of hiding.![]()