[MBTI General] Do xNTJ's seem more xSFP-ish with age?

[Sunny Ghost]

I had read once that xNTJ's will seem more care free and xSFP-like as they age and develop their Fi and Se.

And vice versa: xSFP's will come off more xNTJ-like as they develop their Ni and Te with age.


What do you guys think? Yes, no? Maybe so?

 

[Shudder]

Lord, I hope not.. no offense to SFPs I'm just content with NTJ

 

[ceecee]

I had read once that xNTJ's will seem more care free and xSFP-like as they age and develop their Fi and Se.

And vice versa: xSFP's will come off more xNTJ-like as they develop their Ni and Te with age.


What do you guys think? Yes, no? Maybe so?

No.

 

[PeaceBaby]

Well, one of my dear ISFP friends is now 52 and she does not seem INTJ'ish in any way.

If anything, she is way more into embracing the Fi-Se. A little Te to make more of her dreams a reality would probably be helpful. She makes me look uber-organized, and that's saying a lot.

 

[Stansmith]

Not really.

 

[rav3n]

More like STJs or STPs, reliant on size of carrot up ass.

 

[FDG]

No, unfortunately it's the opposite, they (we) will become more and more TJ-ish with age.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

No, unfortunately it's the opposite, they (we) will become more and more TJ-ish with age.

I agree. I can see that especially with ENTJs like Napoléon, Marlon Brando, Angelina Jolie, Alain Delon or Matt Damon, when they are younger they seem to be more in touch with their ISFP shadow: wild , romantic, sensitive, fragile, facetious, joking. But as they age they seem to move to a more unidimensional ENTJ style: touchy, cold, controlling, rigid, ambitious, visionnary.

It's especially true for the middle ages ENTJs, I think. A stressfull lifestyle, with a lot of responsabilities make the ISFP shadow useless, and the ENTJ style more necessary. The eldest ENTJs though, seem to reconect and be more in touch with their inferior Fi though, as they retire.

 

[Savitri]

Not with age, but with alcohol.

 

[Standuble]

I'm not an NT but my observations suggest that FP become more TJ with age but TJ become more TJ. In the end Te is too damn useful a function and the more you train its use the easier your life will become. That's not to say that they won't necessarily train their FP functions. Fi is more useful as a supporting guide rather than an invisible hand. Although it isn't good at management or business (it can even be detrimental at times) a developed Fi as a known and understood quantity won't screw them around half as much as a subconscious Fi which is screaming out like a virtually inaudible white noise undermining their tactics or strategies without them ever knowing why.

But that is for the working TJ. A retired one will find time to relax and lazy days to take things slow.

 

[highlander]

I had read once that xNTJ's will seem more care free and xSFP-like as they age and develop their Fi and Se.

And vice versa: xSFP's will come off more xNTJ-like as they develop their Ni and Te with age.


What do you guys think? Yes, no? Maybe so?

I agree with this. Look at the these two sets of functions:

INTJ - Ni, Te, Fi, Se
ISFP - Fi, Se, Ni, Te

As one gets older, the tertiary and inferior functions generally become more differentiated and conscious - especially the tertiary. So yes, an INTJ will have developed Fi to a far greater extent, mellow out and not be quite as rigid and serious about things, taking stuff more as it comes, experiencing things in the moment without having to always plan or predict the future. The ISFP will have differentiated their Ni much more and will have a much stronger awareness of the potential insidiousness of inferior Te. Nardi specifically mentioned this in his studies that INTJ and ISFP brains look more similar as they become older. You're still going to be an INTJ or an ISFP - you're just going to soften and round out a bit and it will be harder for outsiders to type you. For those who resist this process, they become an exaggerated characterization of their type. It isn't necessarily attractive.

Note I used the INTJ/ISFP example and not INTJ/ESFP. Those two are closer to each other in function order.

 

[mintleaf]

I know a self-typed INTJ 60-year-old who has a tendency to be pretty loud and charismatic. Definite TJ, but there's still this weird ESFP vibe.