Despotic Ocelot
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Collusion
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Could you not litter the thread with pointless posts like this please? If you don't give a shit, don't post.
Also, I said at the end of the first post that I would be adding a second post about CrowdStrike, and now your post is in the way. I needed the second post to follow the first post. Can you delete your pointless post so I can have the two posts follow each other.
Sorry this couldn't be put on a nice simple bumper sticker for you, but this kinda sorta happens to be the issue that's been decimating the country for 3 years straight & blared on tv every day for 3 years. A lot of fabrications have been put out that needed addressing one by one, so bumper stickers were not really an option. I suggest maybe don't go to the politics forum for the kind of insipid talk you're looking for.
it's a senseless word vomit, closer to a novel than anything cohesive. I want to kms for even wasting my time. Try again.
I was going to post about why Trump acted guilty all throughout the collusiongate debacle (hint, it has to do with his unprecedented stupidity again, like always) I had examples of him doing the same shit in other situations, to show people that this guy is not normal. We are not dealing with a normal person, therefore, cannot judge it by normal person standards.
But I've run the course for now after getting sidetracked on the previous page, and can't put time into that post. I could, but the post would be made badly, and you can't afford one ounce of bad or mistake when you're dealing with the circumstances this country is in (see previous post and 'John McAfee') So I'm gonna have to leave that post for next time.
Do you figure these guys actually do work on an instruction from some sort of anonymous "central" or are triggered into posting by the same or how do you think it works?
Its so similar to what "they" (whoever the frack they actually are) do to the political muslims when they choose to set them off at times to benefit political candidates in the UK.
Like there's always some murderous suicidal muslim unleashed around election time in the UK but it doesnt seem to be creating the same buzz this time. Elsewhere it seems to be the far right instead of muslims, same carry on though, wonder when they're going to finally get curious about who exactly is pulling their strings, for people who believe they are victims of a conspiracy they seem remarkably down with not seeing how they're someone else's useful idiot.
Conspiracy Theorist On Steroids said:When you see it stated anywhere in this thread that the DNC 'took this action' or 'that action', it should not be seen as the organization doing it, but Hillary Clinton personally doing it.
I can honestly say Hillary Clinton rarely enters my thoughts.
As per my pevious post I said I gotta get going, but I didn't see this post until now because you didn't quote me. And I want to say something quick here to try to reiterate a basic point that underpins everything.
The FBI/CIA/NSA are not choir boys. They are corrupt - just as the republicans are corrupt, just as the democrats are corrupt - we have a corrupt government. It's called plutocracy, but can also go by the names oligarchy, kleptocracy, or inverted totalitarianism. All of these apply to the system of government we have now. I linked a Princeton video that explains how our system of government is currently set up to operate, and every organization that covers these sorts of things say that America is the most corrupt country of the developed world.
We had this situation happen twice before. After the rampant corruption of the infamous Gilded Age, Teddy Roosevelt came in with his Square Deal and brought in the Progressive Era of reforms - he was famously known as the trustbuster. When the avaricious excesses of Wall Street brought upon the Great Depression, Franklin Roosevelt and his New Deal led an angry uprising to that - hear their anger here in his infamous "I welcome their hatred" speech. The current plutocrats that run our government now were called robber barons in FDR's day.
So this has happened before. More than once. And it's happening again. That's what the 1% will do every once in a long while - try to hijack democracy in order to pad their pockets more.
When this happens, it corrupts the democratic process, because it makes democracy respond to money and not voters. The current situation we're in right now, in regards to just the military and intelligence agencies, is called the military industrial complex - that's a term from president Eisenhower who warned us to not allow this situation to arise. Which it now has.
That is why the FBI and CIA has brought you all these things in the past years...
That's just in the last 15 years.
- Overthrowing of democratically-elected governments left and right, to install austere right wingers that won't threaten American plutocrats' pockets
- Enhanced interrogation (a war crime)
- Wireless wiretapping
- Unconstitutional collecting of metadata on every American
- Thousands of unconstitutional drone strikes
- Arming terrorists in hopes of fomenting tumult that would serve as a pretext for military involvement, thus enriching defense contractors
- Lying about WMDs in Iraq to create a pretext for invasion
Do you see that? Or do you need 15 more years of that for you to be able to cotton to the fact that "Heeey wait a second, these guys might be corrupt!"? The same people who peddled us WMDs in Iraq (Mueller, Comey, Brennan, etc), are the same ones who peddled us Collusiongate. And ironically, the same whistleblowers who called them out at the time of Iraq... are the SAME ones who called them out for collusiongate.
So the overarching point I really need people to understand... what I hope to god people could comprehend (but sadly, very likely won't)... is that, YES, Trump is a bad guy, he's a danger to the planet... but that doesn't mean that anyone who isn't Trump or republican is a good guy. The fact of the matter here is that everyone on all sides right now is a bad guy. That's what we got here.
The very simple long and short of it is... if we do not get money out of politics, then everyone on all sides of every situation will always be bad because plutocrats control all levers of power. You are merely looking upon proxies of those plutocrats. So change the proxies all you want, it's like rearranging chairs on the Titanic - if the plutocrats remain in control, then nothing will ever fundamentally ever change. You can be outraged at Trump, but I am telling you, the people who aren't with Trump are also bad.
Get money out of politics, it's that simple. It all boils down to just that. That's where every problem emanates from.
And it's just really sad watching those with the actual power manipulate and corral everyone like, the term is overused but in this case is seriously applies, sheep. I've never seen anything as scary as what all combined media, whether seen, read or heard, can do. All of it is controlled by SIX plutocrats (thank Reagan & Clinton for that, also thank Reagan for repealing the Fairness Doctrine), and those 6 people control everything you think. And that power is the scariest damn thing I've ever seen. Assad gunning down his own people for protesting him is nothing compared to the gaslighting the establishment does to it's own people, inciting them to inches from a civil war among themselves. And people follow dutifully along... because they don't know any better. That is what's scary if you want to talk about scary things done by dictatorial governments. Remember... North Koreans actually believe Kim Jong-un has never had to take a shit. If you can make everyone believe that, then that is a scary power to have.
Anyway, as predicted, that came out sloppy as hell, but I had to say it now rather than waiting until later to say it, because I just saw that post.
Harry Truman: "I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in 1947 if I had known it would bcome the American gestapo"
Bitches about somebody’s conspiracy theory by referencing another conspiracy theory
Lol. Pot meet kettle
I think this is the case for most people. I mean, I don't understand the fetish Trump voters have with her but beyond that - nope.
I don't care if he's a likeable person
Forget John McAfee's name for now. He was never mentioned. McAfee go bye bye. Actually, he doesn't exist.
I do think its a bit weird but I do think that whole far right contingent has some pretty weird and fucked up views about women, obsessive thoughts about them too.
There's a real old book called Male Fantasies which outlines some pretty weird thinking among all the men who got drawn into the nazi movement in Germany. I see that shit happening again with the far right all the time.
It's unfortunate McAfee had to be the one to say that. I think McAfee is a quack who got off on playing at crime lord in Latin America. He's also an alleged rapist. I realize the allegation's not the verdict, but it's still a serious allegation.