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Venkish

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Who would you like to be?

Al Swearengen or Petyr Baelish. Someone cunning and intelligent who exudes confidence and maintains complete control. Someone with a firm grasp on the World. Basically, an NTJ type.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Q7YRDL90E (NSFW language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTxI-GXRMGk

My feelings in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28BXqQWqYJU

Who ARE you most like?

It depends on who I'm with, and the atmosphere. Of course, I cannot be objective of my external self.

When surrounded by strangers I'm sort of like Ben from the beginning of The Graduate where Ben's parents throw a party: awkward and shy. Sometimes I succeed in faking confidence and assurance, but not often.

When around immediate family, I'm sort of wacky, sarcastic and random. It bothers me to act like that, but it's something I have trouble turning off when the mood seems fit. However, there are times when I'm stoic.

Regarding the person I relate to the most, I find myself interrupting him and turning the conversation on me. I talk about things I know nothing about (maybe to impress him?) and usually end up looking like a fool. He usually is much more logical than myself. I often spill my guts to him, and complain like a petty child. We both do.

I do not initiate conversations in social settings. I have never so much as asked a person out. Do I fear rejection? Do I lack confidence? Maybe.

I would say every other day I am someone new, but I can't be sure.

What are you passionate about?


Nothing. I want to be passionate. I want to be one of those people who talk about picking up a paint brush at age 3 and painting a masterpiece by age 15, but that is not me. It makes me feel damn insecure.

I'm more like Cormac Mccarthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0C5z79apA.

How are you different from your past self?

I was like most children: naive, obedient, optimistic, friendly, etc. Getting to know people and certain experiences shaped my paranoia, skepticism, and indifference. I'm not a brooder, nor am I anything special; I just don't see sunshine and rainbows. In my view, the world is more like Game of Thrones than it is a sit-com.

Describe yourself now

I'm a homebody. I prefer the company of immediate family or to be alone; I do not believe in concepts of friendships or romantic love, although I want to. Like in School, I've usually avoided extra curricular activities or anything which involved groups. When I was in groups, it didn't feel right to me.

Internal conflicts?

This is probably the source of my confusion. I have a Daniel Plainview mentality, but the world shuns those types (despite the fact that false courtesies and niceties usually get a person nowhere). It's the "being raised by a single mother" issue. I ask myself what my values are, but what I actually try to know is how I cannot stand out and attract attention, while still be who I believe myself to be. I was taught sentiment over logic; kindness over truth. My conflict continues within.

What irks you?

Noises: car doors slamming, children screaming, people talking loud enough for me to hear through a wall, assholes driving down the street blasting their diarrhea music, etc.

Comparing myself to others. While I don't want to work and don't mind remaining dependent on my family and abiding by their rules, I know it is not 'normal'. It is not what I'm 'suppose' to do. And that bothers me quite often.

Anything about other people that makes me jealous. Success stories and the like.

People forcing their agendas whether they be political or anti/religious. At the very least, keep it out of the classroom.

How do you spend your days?


Before starting College, I'd waste time on the internet and watching Netflix.

What cognitive functions do you not relate to?


Any which require effort. I live life on autopilot mode in a stream of consciousness. I really have to force myself to concentrate, or tell myself there is something on the line.

I basically live inside my head.
 

rmrf

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The post screamed INTP to me.

You seem quite introverted, always having inner-monologue or chatter, "living in your head", an aversion to dogma (on both sides), sit at home a lot (on your PC), haven't asked anyone out, maybe from lack of confidence, or just 'laziness' (I'm 19 and that's me), on 'auto pilot'.

I can completely relate to a lot of that - You are definitely 'one of us' :)

I sort of get the impression you kind of want to be INTJ-like, probably stemming from being taught to value "sentiment over logic; kindness over truth". This however created internal conflict that manifests as cognitive dissonance (as it would in an INTP) as opposed to sort of 'over compensating' and taking those values to an extreme (as one would expect from a J). My advice would be embrace who you ARE, not who you WANT to be.

Also a little off topic, but you mentioned Littlefinger, I'm sure many will disagree, but I am convinced he's INTP too. While most INTPs are either of the 'successful intellectual' or 'basement dweller' variety, there is the rare 'evil genius INTP', which is what I think Baelish is.
 

Venkish

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Isn't Ti described as inner complex maps of systems and logic? I'm not sure how I relate to that.
 

rmrf

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Not always, especially if the Ti is weak. It's just that that's the cognitive style INTPs tend to gravitate towards. Not a defining characteristic as such. Also maps of systems and logic can be more abstract than just pure logical systems, but seeing the world in a system like manner, rather than a strictly formalised actual system.
 

Venkish

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I do not act like Daniel Plainview, but his views are mine verbatim.

I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people...sometimes I look at people and see nothing worth liking. I want to earn enough money so I can get away from everyone...I see the worst in people. I don't need to look past seeing them to get all I need. I've build up my hatred over the years little by little.

The way he acts towards his "brother" is sort of how I act towards my brother.
 

rmrf

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Don't know who Daniel Plainview is, so didn't use that as my basis. The impression I got was that he was an INTP whose ego gravitates towards INTJ type personalities; comparing "what I want to be like", "who I see myself as", with the actual details he provided.

Having said that, I am still fairly new to typing (about a month ago I didn't even know what MBTI was) so there's a good chance I may have been mistaken in my estimation.

Could you explain your reasoning for INTJ over INTP, as I would like to know in more detail how to differentiate the two.
 

Venkish

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With all due respect Cog, you shouldn't type a person until you're well versed in the functions.

Looking at my first post, I spoke more of behavior than cognition. Anyone can act anyway and still be any type. So now I will try to talk about how I perceive and judge the World.


I'm a person who tries to look for deeper meaning, even when there isn't any. For example, I may take someone's words to mean something completely different; I see insult where there may be none.

I'm sure of my introversion not because of my aversion to group related activities, but because I live life in my head. To focus on the sights around me as a passenger in a car is a daunting task. I daydream of success, create scenarios, and live as I'd want to be inside my mind. For me to stay in the present moment requires a concentrated effort.

I do use past experiences as a standard for the present. If people were cruel to me many years ago, then I want nothing to do with anybody now.

I'm objectively unaware of what my principles or values may be, and I'm willing to adapt or break my current concepts if it is called for.

I have many surrealist, esoteric dreams and ideas that seem impossible to explain.

While part of me wants to explore the World, I can't help but feel whatever I see will not hold up to my expectations.

I live day by day, with little idea of how I'll spend my time.

I prefer knowing where I'm going before I get there.
 

rmrf

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Ok, INTJ now makes sense, as that certainly sounds a lot more like Ni dominant than Ti.

I agree that one shouldn't type without having a good knowledge of the functions. I have a good conceptual understanding of the Jungian functions. I just need a little bit more practice in inferring function hierarchy from behaviour.

I would have probably come to the conclusion of INTJ with the info from the above post though, just the behaviour in the original post seemed quite 'stereotypical INTP', but perhaps I was a bit hasty in jumping to the INTP conclusion.
 

Venkish

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I think I have some form of depression. It brings out the Fi in me and from time to time I believe myself to be INFJ or INFP. However, the way I interact with the world is apart from my circular internal struggle.

Also, I am more attracted to artistic pursuits (mostly because artists never do a hard day's work and still manage to make money) than scientific ones. But of course this is not a T/F indicator as many writers/painters/musicians/actors are T types.
 

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I just wanted to state that your attempt at satiring attention grabbing titles is, in and of itself, an attention grabbing title.
 

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I read attention grabbing title as attention grabbing titties. :(
 

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