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I decided to post this on the NT board since this perspective is coming from an INTP.
Anyway, did any INTP here (without prior knowledge to MBTI) feel that even among the realm of the introverts, you're still a maverick? Like a subset within a subset?
I think, that I'm among the few INTPs who acknowledge a not-so-good ineterpersonal skills, and is actually trying to do a compromising self-help about that. MBTI helped me a lot in understanding various differences among people, and I specially took note and got a better understanding of how I compare with the other introverts.
Anyway, some thoughts on how I (an INTP) compare with the other introverts in terms of people-skills.
ISTJ - Easy to find. There's quite a number of them. Possibly the only introvert archetype I'm having trouble interacting with. My DAD is an ISTJ, though on the more healthy side. Though two ISTJs I've met really irks me.
These two ISTJ guys are boyfriends to my two female ENFP friends.
Basically, they have little grasp of the outgoing ENFP life. Gets jealous quite easily. Compared to an INTP, they probably even have more trouble expressing their sentiments. At least the INTP has the vocabulary flair generated by their Ne although it may not necessarily be emotional in nature.
They will hardly acknowledge their lack of communication skills, and even if they do, they will not act in a compromising manner and would still want to do things in the context of what they see fit. Must be an Alpha Male SJ mentality thing.
I swear, if they ever piss me off again, I'll flirt with their girlfriend, Ne style. Not that I'm necessarily implying that I'm attracted to my two ENFP friends, but if you're an insecure ISTJ, and you'll ever land yourself with a very attractive, charming ENFP girl, and you'll realize that they're hounded with guy friends, if you're not emotionally secured on that situation, then save yourself the misery and don't get one.
Though I would like to say that these guys have better work ethics. That's basically it.
ISFJ - Basically the profile of my girlfriend. Good work ethics, like an ISTJ. Much like an ISTJ, I observed that an ISFJ's circle of friends and acquatances involves people having the same disposition (e.g., corporate status). They will not exert any effort in getting to know people of a different stature (e.g., a different line of career). They get easily intimidated by people they perceive belongs to a higher elite class (ISTJ's also believe in this chain-of-command thing, only that they believe they're somewhere on top), but generally, they have good social skills, not because of actual skills per se, but because xSFJs are easy to find. They're quite a majority.
ISTP - One of the archetypes I like the most. Sociable, anti-J (just like an INTP). Lives in a very unstructured, improvised life. Not really articulate verbally, but is very very STREET SMART. Seriously, I should hang out with more of them. They're able to make a living in the context of P-structure, able to multitask various unconventional lines of work. If you're an INTP who hates J, for life, you can maybe work on your S to some extent and learn from how ISTP folks do things. They're very good in offering help for mapping out a P oriented career.
INFP - The one I know is really unhealthy. Basically, he's kinda like an INTP that collapsed under the weight of his sentimental baggage and his Fi fails to provide a cushioning effect. INTP can have that baggage too, but Ti is a great neutralizer. He's smart in the sense that his Ne seems to be always on full throttle, though Fi often leans him towards a more pessimistic outlook. If only developing Ti can eb taught easily, I would sincerely wanna help him.
ISFP - I don't think I've met one yet.
INFJ - I know a very handful of them. None of them appears to be attractively charming (physically. Because probably they're not too concerned over their looks), but they have this empathic lure that will probably make you instantly go past beyond your aesthetic desires and easily admire them for what they are. Being an INTP, I think I immediately connect with an INFJ without so much doing a careful thought. They just do connect deeply, without them realizing it.
INTJ - I know only a single one. Not as strong as me in terms of character. But maybe because he's still young. Strikes me to be a boring and flat as an ISTJ, but because of his Ni, we communicate well. He easily picks up the ideas I'm presenting, though between me and him, he's the more passive talker.
INTP (my archetype) -- I doubt if I've ever met one in real life. The closest one is probably a charismatic ENTP. After getting myself knowledgeable about MBTI for a few years, I've realized one major thing about INTP and sociability-
--Ti is probably the most antisocial cognitive process. It makes everybody looks stupid. I still don't know any person in real life who appreciates this. Ti is something I've learned to not assert too much in communication. One has to accept that not everyone can think sensibly, and they shouldn't be corrected all the time, otherwise your Ti will just put you in a bad disposition.
Ironically, Ne is probably the most charming cognitive process and can even attract the sensors. Ne is the humor generating process, the catalyst for flirtation, and for a perceiver, this function quite possibly assures a more promising career outlook more than Ti can ever do.
I think for an INTP charisma, depends on how Ne and Ti fare up with each other, and seriously, over the past few months, I've decided to not introvertedly think (Ti) things too much. By doing that, Ne gets to have a better breathing room. Ironically, I realized that one can't strategize in developing Ne. You don't overthink Ne.
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Basically, I just wanna know how introverted NTs here deal with their people issues. Or do even try to work at it, at all. Personally, I hardly post lengthy things like this anymore, in concerns of intellectualizing things too much.
Anyway, did any INTP here (without prior knowledge to MBTI) feel that even among the realm of the introverts, you're still a maverick? Like a subset within a subset?
I think, that I'm among the few INTPs who acknowledge a not-so-good ineterpersonal skills, and is actually trying to do a compromising self-help about that. MBTI helped me a lot in understanding various differences among people, and I specially took note and got a better understanding of how I compare with the other introverts.
Anyway, some thoughts on how I (an INTP) compare with the other introverts in terms of people-skills.
ISTJ - Easy to find. There's quite a number of them. Possibly the only introvert archetype I'm having trouble interacting with. My DAD is an ISTJ, though on the more healthy side. Though two ISTJs I've met really irks me.
These two ISTJ guys are boyfriends to my two female ENFP friends.
Basically, they have little grasp of the outgoing ENFP life. Gets jealous quite easily. Compared to an INTP, they probably even have more trouble expressing their sentiments. At least the INTP has the vocabulary flair generated by their Ne although it may not necessarily be emotional in nature.
They will hardly acknowledge their lack of communication skills, and even if they do, they will not act in a compromising manner and would still want to do things in the context of what they see fit. Must be an Alpha Male SJ mentality thing.
I swear, if they ever piss me off again, I'll flirt with their girlfriend, Ne style. Not that I'm necessarily implying that I'm attracted to my two ENFP friends, but if you're an insecure ISTJ, and you'll ever land yourself with a very attractive, charming ENFP girl, and you'll realize that they're hounded with guy friends, if you're not emotionally secured on that situation, then save yourself the misery and don't get one.
Though I would like to say that these guys have better work ethics. That's basically it.
ISFJ - Basically the profile of my girlfriend. Good work ethics, like an ISTJ. Much like an ISTJ, I observed that an ISFJ's circle of friends and acquatances involves people having the same disposition (e.g., corporate status). They will not exert any effort in getting to know people of a different stature (e.g., a different line of career). They get easily intimidated by people they perceive belongs to a higher elite class (ISTJ's also believe in this chain-of-command thing, only that they believe they're somewhere on top), but generally, they have good social skills, not because of actual skills per se, but because xSFJs are easy to find. They're quite a majority.
ISTP - One of the archetypes I like the most. Sociable, anti-J (just like an INTP). Lives in a very unstructured, improvised life. Not really articulate verbally, but is very very STREET SMART. Seriously, I should hang out with more of them. They're able to make a living in the context of P-structure, able to multitask various unconventional lines of work. If you're an INTP who hates J, for life, you can maybe work on your S to some extent and learn from how ISTP folks do things. They're very good in offering help for mapping out a P oriented career.
INFP - The one I know is really unhealthy. Basically, he's kinda like an INTP that collapsed under the weight of his sentimental baggage and his Fi fails to provide a cushioning effect. INTP can have that baggage too, but Ti is a great neutralizer. He's smart in the sense that his Ne seems to be always on full throttle, though Fi often leans him towards a more pessimistic outlook. If only developing Ti can eb taught easily, I would sincerely wanna help him.
ISFP - I don't think I've met one yet.
INFJ - I know a very handful of them. None of them appears to be attractively charming (physically. Because probably they're not too concerned over their looks), but they have this empathic lure that will probably make you instantly go past beyond your aesthetic desires and easily admire them for what they are. Being an INTP, I think I immediately connect with an INFJ without so much doing a careful thought. They just do connect deeply, without them realizing it.
INTJ - I know only a single one. Not as strong as me in terms of character. But maybe because he's still young. Strikes me to be a boring and flat as an ISTJ, but because of his Ni, we communicate well. He easily picks up the ideas I'm presenting, though between me and him, he's the more passive talker.
INTP (my archetype) -- I doubt if I've ever met one in real life. The closest one is probably a charismatic ENTP. After getting myself knowledgeable about MBTI for a few years, I've realized one major thing about INTP and sociability-
--Ti is probably the most antisocial cognitive process. It makes everybody looks stupid. I still don't know any person in real life who appreciates this. Ti is something I've learned to not assert too much in communication. One has to accept that not everyone can think sensibly, and they shouldn't be corrected all the time, otherwise your Ti will just put you in a bad disposition.
Ironically, Ne is probably the most charming cognitive process and can even attract the sensors. Ne is the humor generating process, the catalyst for flirtation, and for a perceiver, this function quite possibly assures a more promising career outlook more than Ti can ever do.
I think for an INTP charisma, depends on how Ne and Ti fare up with each other, and seriously, over the past few months, I've decided to not introvertedly think (Ti) things too much. By doing that, Ne gets to have a better breathing room. Ironically, I realized that one can't strategize in developing Ne. You don't overthink Ne.
_________________
Basically, I just wanna know how introverted NTs here deal with their people issues. Or do even try to work at it, at all. Personally, I hardly post lengthy things like this anymore, in concerns of intellectualizing things too much.