2020 Democratic Party primary thread

[Jaguar]

almost like... chess.

A little late for chess since she got out after losing her own state to Joe.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

A little late for chess since she got out after losing her own state to Joe.

I'm pretty sure she did that more to fuck Bernie. I won't be surprised if she withholds her endorsement until there's an official nominee.

 

[Jaguar]

I'm pretty sure she did that more to fuck Bernie. I won't be surprised if she withholds her endorsement until there's an official nominee.

I know. Everyone is fucking Bernie. Poor Bernie. The 'victim'.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Is it really possible that the next debate will be Biden, Bernie and Tulsi ?

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Is it really possible that the next debate will be Biden, Bernie and Tulsi ?

Too little too late for Tulsi, unfortunately. Shame, had she been at some of the debates since November, I really think she'd have done a lot better in the primaries. I do think she had potential to get both moderate and progressive democrats behind her, and I think she was the only democrat running with a real shot of stealing any significant number of trump voters or those on-the-fence republicans people assume will get behind Biden.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Tulsi Gabbard Wins a Delegate. The DNC Might Still Keep Her Off the Debate Stage. – Reason.com

Still, just feels like salt in the wound to finally allow her to debate at this point in the race. As if it will make a difference now that most people have lined up behind Bernie or Uncle Joe

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

I know. Everyone is fucking Bernie. Poor Bernie. The 'victim'.

Meh, nowhere near as bad as the ass raping Biden's going to take in November. Poor old Uncle Joe is so used to being the one doing the innapropriate groping and grabbing, can't wait to see his face when he's taken from behind and pounded without lubricant to the point of crying like a little girl. Plus, maybe the dems learn their lesson and don't try to block a progressive candidate in 2024. #winning

Even if he does win, he'll still lose when the eventual next crash or recession hits during his term, and he is blamed, regardless of whether Trump actually caused it. Definitely will be a one termer, whether he is voted out or dies in office.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Too little too late for Tulsi, unfortunately. Shame, had she been at some of the debates since November, I really think she'd have done a lot better in the primaries. I do think she had potential to get both moderate and progressive democrats behind her, and I think she was the only democrat running with a real shot of stealing any significant number of trump voters.

That wasn't the question. The question was can she still get into some debate ? (I don't know how the process works)

Her and Bernie alone with Biden: that could easily be defining moment of who takes the nomination. (especially now Warren is out)
Tulsi can't win but she could totally "disrupt" many things.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

That wasn't the question. The question was can she still get into some debate ? (I don't know how the process works)

Her and Bernie alone with Biden: that could easily be defining moment of who takes the nomination. (especially now Warren is out)
Tulsi can't win but she could totally "disrupt" many things.

Apparently they're inviting any candidate with delegates, of which she has earned one. But I won't be surprised if there's some last minute rule change barring her from the stage. Biden is really the one who should be more afraid of her. I think she and Bernie had a pact to avoid slandering or attacking one another in this election.

She's sharp, Biden has slowed in recent years. I would love to see them debate foreign policy. It would go poorly for Biden.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Apparently they're inviting any candidate with delegates, of which she has earned one. But I won't be surprised if there's some last minute rule change barring her from the stage. Biden is really the one who should be more afraid of her. I think she and Bernie had a pact to avoid slandering or attacking one another in this election.

She's sharp, Biden has slowed in recent years. I would love to see them debate foreign policy. It would go poorly for Biden.

I know, since that is what I heard. This is exactly why I am asking.
Resurrecting her now when everyone is out would be "very naughty" but probably quite effective.

 

[Jaguar]

Poor old Uncle Joe is so used to being the one doing the innapropriate groping and grabbing, can't wait to see his face when he's taken from behind and pounded without lubricant

I didn't know you were into that kind of action but hey, to each his own.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

I didn't know you were into that kind of action but hey, to each his own.

Me, no, not really.

But it really depends on whether uncle joey is into that sort of thing.

 

[Jaguar]

Me, no, not really.

But it really depends on whether uncle joey is into that sort of thing.

You're the one who brought up pounding without a lubricant. lol. You people . . .

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

You're the one who brought up pounding without a lubricant. lol. You people . . .

tha fuck you people supposed to mean?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Meh, it's not over. He's not all the far behind in delegates, and the delegates haven't even all been allocated California, if not other states. People concluded Biden would be done for, and we know how that turned out. I'm not saying it's likely that he wins; I'm just saying that it's possible.

The results in Minnesota and Massachusetts aren't great news, because it shows that Biden has legs outside of the South, but those are also the states of rivals for the nomination. I suspect Sanders will win Michigan, a state Democrats need to win over in the general, and if he can do that, he can build some momentum out of that. Not sure that it will be enough, but anything can happen here.

Sanders says Biden should be Democratic nominee if he wins plurality of delegates

But the Vermont senator added it would be damaging to the Democratic Party if superdelegates — elected officials, members of the Democratic National Committee and party elders — were to support on the second ballot the candidate who won fewer pledged delegates.

He's right. Especially given that at least some of those people donate to Republicans.

Anyway, I'm with him on this. I'll support Biden as the nominee if he gets more delegates without shenanigans from superdelegates (and stop going after him). Really, if you think about, how viable can any candidate be in a general election if they can't win the most votes in the primary of their own party? By using superdelegates to catapult someone to the nomination without a majority (whether it's Bernie or Biden), you're just selecting someone who your own party doesn't like all that much. Even without all the hell that would get raised as a consequence, that's a recipe for disaster.

Also, people who compare him to Trump, do you think Trump would do what Sanders just did if he were in this situation?

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

the superdelegate system is a joke anyway. It should have been scrapped after 2016. They didn't want another McGovern (who, incidentally, had originally played a key role in pushing for primary elections to hold more weight than smoke filled back room deals).

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

the superdelegate system is a joke anyway. It should have been scrapped after 2016. They didn't want another McGovern (who, incidentally, had originally played a key role in pushing for primary elections to hold more weight than smoke filled back room deals).

He's not McGovern. Biden might be another Kerry, though. (Coincidentally, you never hear about the guy who lost the popular vote to Dubya, because he was a moderate of the lame variety. )

I'm sure people are going to chime and tell me "it's over", but the truth is nobody has been able to predict this, except for maybe 538 a few days before each election. 538 isn't that valuable in the long term, but they seem to be reliable within a week or two. They predicted Biden winning Texas.

Anyway, do you know who they predict winning the nomination now? (Not that it's super reliable att this point) No one. That means they don't think anyone will be able to secure a majority, only a plurality.

I'm not saying we won't get Biden, but we shouldn't take that for granted. There are, what, like two thirds of the delegates still in play?

 

[ceecee]

That wasn't the question. The question was can she still get into some debate ? (I don't know how the process works)

Her and Bernie alone with Biden: that could easily be defining moment of who takes the nomination. (especially now Warren is out)
Tulsi can't win but she could totally "disrupt" many things.

She has to meet a 15% threshold to be in a debate. I don't believe she has it. Because the rule is new people are taking issue, anyone still running should be in the debate. Including Tulsi, imo

 

[Maou]

Biden doesn't even want to win, he is fodder. They are giving Trump another 4 years because they don't want Sanders in control of the Democratic party. Simple as that. Biden is practically an alzheimers patient ffs. It should be obvious.

 

[Red Herring]

the superdelegate system is a joke anyway. It should have been scrapped after 2016. They didn't want another McGovern (who, incidentally, had originally played a key role in pushing for primary elections to hold more weight than smoke filled back room deals).

Naive question from a foreigner here. Why don't you just let all party members vote their candidate on the same day and be done with it? Then hold a direct election and let every citizen elegible to vote directly vote the president regardless of location. One person one vote. Done. That's how most Western democracies handle things and it seems not only simpler but fairer.