Unkindloving
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I would give it some hot sauce and then pop it in a cold shower
ABUUUUUUSE.. maybe
I would give it some hot sauce and then pop it in a cold shower
Or by neglect, assuming a sane case of manslaughter. No doubt. It is impossible to fault the baby.
Essentially, this question has been asked and asked specifically of us infinite times and boils down to:
"do you do something morally wrong or bad to prevent an inevitable outcome that is considerably worse than the results of the immoral action?"
Probably everyone has some kind of tipping point. Do you kill a junkie to save the entire earth? Do you punch a child to save his life? Do you kill a doomed baby to save yourself and others?
I'd say yes to all of them.
The first part about jurisdictional differences is a distraction since the bulk of the membership understand what manslaughter means. Then terminating a baby who might or might not give the hiding place away should also be a waste of human resources.
The bolded phrase is a subjective judgment. I consider killing an innocent baby worse than any possible outcome of it crying. As far as morality is concerned, if it came down to killing an adult, my response might be different depending on the situation.Or by neglect, assuming a sane case of manslaughter. No doubt. It is impossible to fault the baby.
Essentially, this question has been asked and asked specifically of us infinite times and boils down to:
"do you do something morally wrong or bad to prevent an inevitable outcome that is considerably worse than the results of the immoral action?"
Probably everyone has some kind of tipping point. Do you kill a convicted killer to save the entire earth? Do you punch a child to save his life? Do you kill a doomed baby to save yourself and others?
I'd say yes to all of them.
The bolded word is important. No one can predict the future and all its possibilities.A man carries a gold bar into a seemingly endless desert and finally drops it to continue his journey. Was that a waste of resources?
The bolded phrase is a subjective judgment. I consider killing an innocent baby worse than any possible outcome of it crying. As far as morality is concerned, if it came down to killing an adult, my response might be different depending on the situation.
The bolded word is important. No one can predict the future and all its possibilities.
And anyways, the wasted resource argument was yours not mine.
You ignored my very important caveat of "my response might be different depending on the situation".Why would the sacrificial lamb being an adult make the decision any different? What about an adult that is unable to control their own actions, essentially taking on the exact role of the baby, but without the cuteness factor?
That's not what happened. You own the human life = resource point and I just piggybacked off this assumption. Now if this assumption is incorrect, then the entire house of cards falls including and especially your waste of resource argument.It became yours the moment you suggested the baby was a resource and not a liability. A gamble, a choice, we make them all the time. The future is a product of all of these, and we do the best we can. Does that render the moral dilemma solved?
The bolded phrase is a subjective judgment. I consider killing an innocent baby worse than any possible outcome of it crying. As far as morality is concerned, if it came down to killing an adult, my response might be different depending on the situation.
Being alive is not necessarily always in my personal interests also.
The baby's cries could be a decoy for them to look towards a certain direction
Oho! I now know something I might have in common with my dead self.I don't think you'd have a "personal interest" once you're dead.
Always about timing. Someone must move before the trigger is pulled. Requires fast paced action and wondrous movement of arm to neck styles.As great of a plan as that is. Nazi's don't "look", they just start shooting shit.
So you would've killed the baby anyways.
Always about timing. Someone must move before the trigger is pulled. Requires fast paced action and wondrous movement of arm to neck styles.
Oh this now changes the whole scenario. I am now hypothetically jackie chan under a floorboard with jewish people. We must remember that jackie chan always prevails in his movies.Alright there Jackie Chan.
Oh this now changes the whole scenario. I am now hypothetically jackie chan under a floorboard with jewish people. We must remember that jackie chan always prevails in his movies.
Ah yes, for sure.And he's a bad ass that changes the hearts of the evil doers. So You might even change the hearts of the Nazis!