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SingSmileShine
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Anger. I love my outbursts, as much as I hate to admit that. I feel quite powerful when voicing my opinions, which are very moral, at people who are not following them.
I agree with all of this -- except for the expression factor. Although wonder is one of my favorite emotions, for the same reasons you listed, I'm not sure if I've ever really expressed it, in the sense of the word that I can understand. Maybe it's my inferior Fi, but when I've tried to explain my sense of wonder to people, I could never do it justice.Most satisfying = wonder. It combines a sense of peace, fascination, and insight. For me it is the truest form of happiness. It is the feeling of most fully comprehending what is beyond me.
Most satisfying = wonder. It combines a sense of peace, fascination, and insight. For me it is the truest form of happiness. It is the feeling of most fully comprehending what is beyond me.
Same for me: wonder, awe, amazement. I enjoy seeing something new, having my horizons broadened in unexpected ways. This combines learning, appreciation, and a new perspective relative to the every-day and familiar.
You find sadness to be more satisfying than anger? I find this so interesting. Is it because of the consequences of anger, versus the consequences of sadness?It's a tie between: admiration, relief, exhaustion, pride, and sadness.
The only emotion I really don't enjoy is anger.
You find sadness to be more satisfying than anger? I find this so interesting. Is it because of the consequences of anger, versus the consequences of sadness?
Oh, this makes sense! Ok. I wonder if it's function- or type-related. Because I feel the same catharsis with anger, and zero of the catharsis with sadness. If I watch movies, or listen to music, or read a book, that is painfully sad and possibly makes me sad, i just end up feeling more sad, and have a hard time raising my spirits afterwards. Whereas, listening to music or watching movies etc with massive explosions of RAGE is one of the most beautifully cathartic things for me. (I'm not really sure why this is -- but it's part of the reason why, if a movie has made me cry, I will never, ever watch it again.)No, sadness is simply more relieving, you feel better after some genuine sadness- like when you're nauseated and you vomit and then you feel wonderful after. I don't get that with anger. I just have to wait for it to cool down or go to bed.
Oh, this makes sense! Ok. I wonder if it's function- or type-related. Because I feel the same catharsis with anger, and zero of the catharsis with sadness. If I watch movies, or listen to music, or read a book, that is painfully sad and possibly makes me sad, i just end up feeling more sad, and have a hard time raising my spirits afterwards. Whereas, listening to movies or watching movies etc with massive explosions of RAGE out of a character is one of the most beautifully cathartic things for me. (I'm not really sure why this is -- but it's part of the reason why, if a movie has made me cry, I will never, ever watch it again.)
Here's an example, in the form of a conversation I had with someone about music.
INFP Friend: Do you listen to Regina Spektor?
Me: Nah, man. Listening to her is like being dragged into a room with no windows and no doors and being beaten over the head with the worst human emotions, for over an hour. It's kind of traumatic.
INFP Friend (looking confused): Traumatic? Really? But you listen to such intense music.
^ My version of "intense" was intensely sad, e.g. Regina Spektor (and sometimes Amanda Palmer), whereas her version of intense is some of the hard rock and metal that I listen to -- which has exactly the same feeling of black-box intimacy, only with anger instead of sadness.
I think it's more that sadness is passive and introspective. The goal of sadness is to think differently about something.You find sadness to be more satisfying than anger? I find this so interesting. Is it because of the consequences of anger, versus the consequences of sadness?
A good, cleansing anger is pleasant from time to time.
Oh, this makes sense! Ok. I wonder if it's function- or type-related. Because I feel the same catharsis with anger, and zero of the catharsis with sadness. If I watch movies, or listen to music, or read a book, that is painfully sad and possibly makes me sad, i just end up feeling more sad, and have a hard time raising my spirits afterwards. Whereas, listening to music or watching movies etc with massive explosions of RAGE is one of the most beautifully cathartic things for me. (I'm not really sure why this is -- but it's part of the reason why, if a movie has made me cry, I will never, ever watch it again.)
Here's an example, in the form of a conversation I had with someone about music.
INFP Friend: Do you listen to Regina Spektor?
Me: Nah, man. Listening to her is like being dragged into a room with no windows and no doors and being beaten over the head with the worst human emotions, for over an hour. It's kind of traumatic.
INFP Friend (looking confused): Traumatic? Really? But you listen to such intense music.
^ My version of "intense" was intensely sad, e.g. Regina Spektor (and sometimes Amanda Palmer), whereas her version of intense is some of the hard rock and metal that I listen to -- which has exactly the same feeling of black-box intimacy, only with anger instead of sadness.
No, sadness is simply more relieving, you feel better after some genuine sadness- like when you're nauseated and you vomit and then you feel wonderful after. I don't get that with anger. I just have to wait for it to cool down or go to bed.
Here's an example, in the form of a conversation I had with someone about music.
INFP Friend: Do you listen to Regina Spektor?
Me: Nah, man. Listening to her is like being dragged into a room with no windows and no doors and being beaten over the head with the worst human emotions, for over an hour. It's kind of traumatic.
INFP Friend (looking confused): Traumatic? Really? But you listen to such intense music.
Because I feel the same catharsis with anger, and zero of the catharsis with sadness. If I watch movies, or listen to music, or read a book, that is painfully sad and possibly makes me sad, i just end up feeling more sad, and have a hard time raising my spirits afterwards. Whereas, listening to music or watching movies etc with massive explosions of RAGE is one of the most beautifully cathartic things for me. (I'm not really sure why this is -- but it's part of the reason why, if a movie has made me cry, I will never, ever watch it again.)
^ My version of "intense" was intensely sad, e.g. Regina Spektor (and sometimes Amanda Palmer), whereas her version of intense is some of the hard rock and metal that I listen to -- which has exactly the same feeling of black-box intimacy, only with anger instead of sadness.