simulatedworld
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"Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed, that is." ―yoda
Okay, this one sounds kinda Ni because he's telling Luke to let go of the assumption that death is bad. Fair enough.
"Careful you must be when sensing the future, Anakin. The fear of loss is a path to the dark side." ―yoda
This sounds more Fi/Ne to me. "Look what will happen if you don't stay in touch with and in control of your emotions."
"Yes. A Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." ―Yoda to Luke
Same as above; he's warning Luke to stay true to his feelings and avoid negative feelings that could send him down the wrong path. I don't see what's Ni about this.
these sound like traditional Ni wisdom if I understand correctly. Although there are also external connections Yoda makes in leaps (Ne). The force involves the ultimate connection and flow of all things, but it also enables hints of relations with processes and objects and the unfolding of events over time before they happen. The force also deals with visions and mental imagery, which is also pretty Ni. Although this does not make a force user more likely to use Ni than Ne and vice versa, it does accommodate the means of both. Overall the force is entirely N, but I'd say the concept appears very Ne, while the underlying uses and applications of the force would seem very Ni.
Well the force could be used by an Ni or Ne person, but the concept of the force itself seems pretty Ne (as you said.) I think the wisdom imparted above by Yoda, though, sounds a lot more Fi+Ne in nature.
The force itself doesn't seem to tell anyone what's going to happen--even the masters of the force, the top Jedi, were unable to detect an international conspiracy to overthrow the old Republic and create the empire. None of them were able to predict that Anakin would turn to the dark side.
And are you sure these visions and mental imagery are direct results of the force? It seems like they're mostly just the Ni of Ni-oriented people, regardless of whether or not the force is doing anything for them.
I would argue that the only people who apply the force in an Ni way are Ni users (like Obi-Wan) who are already predisposed to Ni means of perception.