Xander
Lex Parsimoniae
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Function order? Wait have I missed something?My ex is violent and fucking nuts. He has poor impulse control, it's like he's two different people, like almost two distinct personalities. His parents even know something is wrong with him. Some people are mentally disturbed in a way that is destructive to both other people and themselves, and that's that.
However, those cases aren't about function order, but about personality disorder or mental illness.
Please tell me no one is suggesting that a particular order of functions is unhealthy for people... It's not the behaviour manifest but why it's there which determines if it's healthy or not. Should I never burst into tears or suffer empathy out the whazzo for no particular reason? I think frickin not. If you CAN'T flex from your defined preferences, if they are the quoted 100% (not that I believe in the percentages stuff particularly) then THAT is a sign of being unhealthy/ under developed. And no I don't really care how much someone can claim to be 100% T, if they are then they're either disturbed or just plain thick.
I would agree that function order tells you the order of preferences of an individual and I'd guess that any model presented which said that this format is correct is born out of ignorance not insight.
Stress is a bad buzz word at the moment. More people are claiming to suffer from stress, often accurately, but because of this up surge and the vast majority suffering temporary set backs compared to chronic sufferers means that people look at you twice if you are diagnosed as stressed. It seems they're just as likely to prescribe a strong drink as anything more useful.I've suffered from depression and anxiety (which I am now thinking is PTSD, especially because of which medications and methods have worked for me) and I can tell you that there is an "unhealthy" version of me when I'm having panic attacks and am so depressed I can't stop crying. However, I don't have the problems that my ex has, because I'm not destructive to other people in the same way - his problems are more severe, and much like most people with his particular level of sickness, he won't get help. It's ironic to me that it's often the people who need help the most that won't get it, and that the people who do manage to get help are usually people who suffer from things like panic attacks, depression, or PTSD, etc.
Still, I guess, as research has shown stress to be a potential killer then yes it would deserve the title of "unhealthy". Mind you it's all shades of grey. Consider sea green or turquoise. One guy calls it blue, the other green.
I made an error in that post, I didn't mean to state that she had none of the strengths. I was mixing a real world and theoretical example. My apologies.Probably an unhealthy FJ, for sure. ISFJ is probably correct if she's capable of controlling and manipulating people to the extent of obeying her (that's crazy, I'd probably smack her, but I don't have Fe...I wonder sometimes if people with Fi are more capable of resisting Fe bullshit than others who also have Fe).
Because using social "supposed tos" does sound SFJ, it does.
I just doubt very seriously that she has *none* of the strengths, though, that's surely an exaggeration on your part, unless she's entirely psychotic.
Oh and she's only not got slapped thus far because her other half is popular and would get it in the neck for years afterwards. That and the girl is pitiful. You could call us enablers... it does fit. In fact my wife has given me ear ache over being too reasonable with this girl.