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After watching the Iron Man movies. I'm saying that that version is ESTP.
In The Avengers movie, I thought the Four Temperaments were as follows:
Thor = Artisan
Steve Rogers/Captain America = Guardian
Tony Stark/Iron Man = Rational (yes, most likely ENTP)
Bruce Banner/Hulk = Idealist
I noted the interaction between Stark and Banner in The Avengers, that they were both the "abstractoids" of the group and how they don't click nearly as well with Thor and Captain America.
I think that the movie's interpretation of the four characters matched up uncannily well with Keirsey's temperaments in particular compared to other stories that use some form of the four temperamental humors. Perhaps the filmmakers read PUM II?
I'm gonna have to weigh in with ENTP 7w8 sx/so
Whotcha all think Captain America is?
I agree with that.
ISTJ Enneagram 1
Why is Captain America ISTJ? He seemed more Fe to me.
Definite introvert. Naturally gravitates to leadership role. Strong orientation towards tradition. ISFJs do not gravitate towards leadership roles - especially with such an unruly group as the rest of the avengers. I see Fi and not Fe - driven by very strong internal moral principles.
The military has a very high percentage ISTJs by the way.
But what about when he was talking to Tony Stark in the movie about how he was so selfish and then said something to the affect of "self-sacrificing" as well. That seemed so much more Fe to me. I mean I could see him as either, but he seemed more ISFJ to me.
It's a good illustration of those very strong values or internal principles that are characteristic of Fi. I don't see this as being Fe necessarily at all.
You don't see self-sacrificing as Fe?
Not really.
It is true that some Fe types can demonstrate this behavior - like ISFJs who are one of the best examples. You could even say it is a driving force in their personality. They are Fe auxiliary though.
So what you are saying is that this is more typical of an Fe dom than an Fe aux?
I just don't know that it's either - you're connecting the characteristic with Fe and I don't know if that's right.
For example, as an INTJ, I throw myself under the bus for others in important ways at times. The first time I recall doing this in a big way was when I was 21. That is self sacrificing behavior and I'm Fi tertiary. It has to do with commitment and loyalty to others and/or to principles. It's not Fe at all.
I thought Fe was known for the self-sacrificing behavior?
I don't think so. Are there any published materials that state this? I don't recall seeing it.
I just don't know that it's either - you're connecting the characteristic with Fe and I don't know if that's right.
For example, as an INTJ, I throw myself under the bus for others in important ways at times. The first time I recall doing this in a big way was when I was 21. That is self sacrificing behavior and I'm Fi tertiary. It has to do with commitment and loyalty to others and/or to principles. It's not Fe at all.