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Mine's all out of fuel.
You can have the shell though.
That will suffice.
Mine's all out of fuel.
You can have the shell though.
In the Jung excerpt, he makes Fi the more "mystical" one.The essence of a function does not change. Thinking remains Thinking, it never gets mystical, however it may appear mystical to others.
I never argued that the essence of a function changes by its direction. Direction is an additional component to the function. What this means is Introverted Thinking is most easily stimulated by ideas that are abstract in nature (such as mathematics and philosophy), yet Extroverted Thinking is more easily stimulated by problems that are ostensible in the external world.
Mystical logic is an oxymoron. Logic is completely objective. All of its procedures are always clearly outlined and are linear. As we have established earlier, Ti and Te are the same piece, therefore there is no reason to call Ti logic mystical.
The difference between me and other Ti doms is simply that I am more comfortable voicing my thoughts than they are. Ti logic is deemed mystical by others because Tis often do not voice their thoughts in public as explicitly as Te doms.
phoenix13 is ENFP, though unwise compared to the average thirty year old ENFP. Which I don't believe she is, as yet.I think phoenix13 is an FJ of sorts, even though she has herself listed as an ENFP.
phoenix13 is ENFP, though unwise compared to the average thirty year old ENFP. Which I don't believe she is, as yet.
She's far easier to deal with than CC, who is also ENFP.Phoenix13's reactions to my posts are very indicative of an FJ.
Perhaps her P function is very soft or something.
She's far easier to deal with than CC, who is also ENFP.
IT IS my assessment that the ENFJ will not even engage when confronted with such conflict as they have been, and have engaged.I don't think it's a matter of who is easier to deal with. I was just commenting on reactions, which are indicative of a certain thought process.
IT IS my assessment that the ENFJ will not even engage when confronted with such conflict as they have been, and have engaged.
I refer you to the "Short rant on NFs" thread.Alas, I haven't been witness to the conflict's in question, therefore I cannot comment.
I'm pretty sure she's ENFP. I'm not seeing the FJ. I see strong Fi.Phoenix13's reactions to my posts are very indicative of an FJ.
Perhaps her P function is very soft or something.
I refer you to the "Short rant on NFs" thread.
I'm pretty sure she's ENFP. I'm not seeing the FJ. I see strong Fi.
Well, you're incorrect with your conclusion that she's more directive than informative. But that's due to a lack of data.I can't argue using "cognitive functions" because I do not find them an accurate assessment of personalities. I prefer Keirsian typology SJ NF SP NT, and informative vs directive. Those to me seem a lot more definitive and exact.
Well, you're incorrect with your conclusion that she's more directive than informative. But that's due to a lack of data.
Phoenix13's reactions to my posts are very indicative of an FJ.
Perhaps her P function is very soft or something.
Right, and by reactions, you're refering to the only reaction I've ever given you: http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...ind-attractive-other-people-3.html#post402785
and your post reaked of arrogance, something at odds with my value system (Fi), so I called it out. Fe might be more inclined to let it slide, or at least be tactful. I'm not.
Don't forget your curt retort "wrong" to my post at http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/relationships/10047-enfp-intp-relationship-2.html#post378491
By the way, your "moral indignation" can be construed as arrogance as well.
(edit: also, in the same thread as you have referenced, another ENFP states her attraction to arrogance. So there goes your cognitive function argument)