Why do you say this? I think the correlation is perfectly obvious. NTs should tend towards libertarian views (this does not mean ALL NTs, nor does it mean NTs are strict libertarians, but the general tendancy should be valid).
The key tenant of libertarianism is that people should more or less be left to their own devices as long as they don't stomp all over others in the process. Such an approach seems emminently logical to me in general, so it appeals to my NT worldview although I am not a strict libertarian. I would expect other NTs to feel the same way, and this article seems to confirm my expectation.
So these people who have posted in this thread(including me) are a bunch of idiots because you disagree with the comments,
how about instead of acting like a self-righteous know it all try offering counter valid points instead of personally insulting people, I'm so tried of that bullshit on this forum(like in that pathetic Everyday Sexism thread). There are people who are ignorant(we have to start at somewhere) but willing to learn more but when they encounter this crap on this forum it will turn many off and why not.
Yeah, what you are highlighting here is an emotional attachment to an ideology, it would strike me as fired by introversion and feeling/emoting.
The reason why I think that there isnt a correlation is that there classic ASSumption in libertarianism is that its rational, patently rational, your own reductivist description is illustrative of what I'm talking about but that has been blown apart by left and right wing critics YEARS ago, when that satanic creedo emerged in its first form, classical economics and classical liberalism.
On the right wing Southy, Coleridge and others attacked it as promoting class struggles or favouring certain classes in those struggles and having all sorts of unintended consequences, on the left Marx and others attacked it as by no means a scientific theory or attempt at scientific theorising any longer but an ideology serving certain vested interests and social classes (this could equally be said of socialism in practice but that's another question).
If you're a thinker at all you're not going to be too satisfied by an ideology and much less a shallow and naive one such as libertarianism.
I disagreed with you. Can you care to explain exactly why you're so against the idea that the NT temperament can have correlations with Libertarian views?
Instead of saying how mistaken you think we are, how about you prove, with concrete evidence, why we're mistaken
(When you finally figure out it's merely your opinion and not fact, I'll gladly accept your ham-fisted apology haha)
Yeah, what you are highlighting here is an emotional attachment to an ideology, it would strike me as fired by introversion and feeling/emoting.
The reason why I think that there isnt a correlation is that there classic ASSumption in libertarianism is that its rational, patently rational, your own reductivist description is illustrative of what I'm talking about but that has been blown apart by left and right wing critics YEARS ago, when that satanic creedo emerged in its first form, classical economics and classical liberalism.
On the right wing Southy, Coleridge and others attacked it as promoting class struggles or favouring certain classes in those struggles and having all sorts of unintended consequences, on the left Marx and others attacked it as by no means a scientific theory or attempt at scientific theorising any longer but an ideology serving certain vested interests and social classes (this could equally be said of socialism in practice but that's another question).
If you're a thinker at all you're not going to be too satisfied by an ideology and much less a shallow and naive one such as libertarianism.
I responded by editing my prior post.
Is there a hash tag for useless emoting?
ummmm
Strict libertarianism I agree. But if you are a thinker you are likely to have libertarian leanings. As opposed to say, right wing conservative leanings, or bleeding heart liberal leanings, or communist/socialist leanings.If you're a thinker at all you're not going to be too satisfied by an ideology and much less a shallow and naive one such as libertarianism.
Strict libertarianism I agree. But if you are a thinker you are likely to have libertarian leanings. As opposed to say, right wing conservative leanings, or bleeding heart liberal leanings, or communist/socialist leanings.
Anyways, you and I can differ on opinion, but the survey results seem to support my expectations, which I don't find surprising. Perhaps you do, but I think you are letting your personal bias (you seem anti-libertarian) color your judgement about how most NTs are likely to think.
What does this predict about INTJs? We use both.I think one might find a correlation between Te and right wing ideologies and conversely for Fi and left wing ideologies.
Thinkers, and NTs in particular, value independence and competence, so there may be some tendency toward political views based on non-interference and personal responsibility. I wouldn't call myself conservative, liberal, socialist, or libertarian, but then I have always hesitated to put labels on my views, political or otherwise.Strict libertarianism I agree. But if you are a thinker you are likely to have libertarian leanings. As opposed to say, right wing conservative leanings, or bleeding heart liberal leanings, or communist/socialist leanings.
Strict libertarianism I agree. But if you are a thinker you are likely to have libertarian leanings. As opposed to say, right wing conservative leanings, or bleeding heart liberal leanings, or communist/socialist leanings.
Anyways, you and I can differ on opinion, but the survey results seem to support my expectations, which I don't find surprising. Perhaps you do, but I think you are letting your personal bias (you seem anti-libertarian) color your judgement about how most NTs are likely to think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(making_excuses)
Go read. Learn. Become as smart as you'd like to believe you are.
Admittedly, our data is scarce. Still, such as it is it confirms my bias and not yours. I'm not sure where on the political spectrum you think NTs fall, since all I've got to go on is your completely unsubstantiated assertion that the correlation between NT's and libertarianism "is dumb".
You are the one that needs to read your second link. Rationalization is one of the first things that people do when their bias is not confirmed. Your next sentence is an example of the second. Here's a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
[MENTION=16891]Sgt. Pepper[/MENTION] - yeah I can see where this is going. Lark can have the last word. As you mentioned upthread when you refered to being surprised this was a touchy subject, it simply isn't that important to me.