RaptorWizard
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God is simply a much more highly evolved life form than us, because with great age comes great wisdom, so he must be an old man.
Yeah, I definitely don't care in the slightest about that. I happen to get approval because some people happen to largely agree with my approach--which is bound to happen in a thread targeted at atheists.If you want the approval of the people in this thread, then go ahead and seek their approval.
You quote passages of your choosing and include your commentary with them. Moreover, you specifically targeted me and one other poster. I'm still not sure what you're after from me.But if you want the approval of God, then believe in his Son, Jesus Christ.
I'm not interested in opinions, speculations, or interpretations. And I'm not giving opinions, speculations or interpretations.
I've done little more than quote the Scriptures in this thread.
I do not agree with every word of the scriptures, no. I would go further, that I believe that it would be outrageous to do so; I am surprised that anyone agrees with every word of the scriptures.If you agree with the Holy Scriptures, every word of it, the Old and New Testaments, then we are in agreement. If you do not agree with the Scriptures then we are not in agreement.
Do you agree with the Scriptures or not?
God is not the one regurgitating gratuitous Bible verses on an online forum. He would know and do far better than that. Unless, of course, you are going to equate yourself with God.You reject the Word of God himself, in the Holy Scriptures. Does that mean that God is going about it the wrong way?
Are you wiser than God?
[...] but i got no problem with people needing the comfort of "god".
I do when they impose their religious beliefs onto others and it negatively affects us "non-believers", because we're somehow less moral or trustworthy, and also because, especially since living in the United States, many people won't vote for anyone, no matter their personal beliefs or policies, that was atheist. Plus, many Christians seem to demonize sexuality, and I am strongly against that.
What is God?
You have made this about me since your very first post in this thread. So, yeah, if this is about one of us, this is about me. Specifically, it's about my relationship with God.
You alone do not have the power to convince me that your interpretation of God is the correct one. The thing is that I'm telling you exactly why your message is unconvincing to me. If you want to reach me, you have to listen to me.
I want to be heard and understood. You finally understand that.I hear you loud and clear.
You want to be reached. You want to be heard and understood. And you want to be told you're alright.
But you're not. You're on the road to Hell, and you know it.
You're afraid to die without God, and you're afraid to approach God because of your sin.
But I'm telling you that you MUST approach God through his Son Jesus Christ if you want to be saved from your sin.
Now hear the words of the Lord Jesus Christ, and be saved:
John 5:24
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life."
I want to be heard and understood. You finally understand that.
But you don't understand my intention--I want to be understood only because that's a prerequisite for actually holding a conversation.
I don't care to be told that I'm alright as I am--that's not the right way to live. I know what confirmation bias is and I actively try to avoid it by actively seeking out worldviews and ideas that differ from my own. That is where you and I differ.
You were better off when you had simply posted a Bible verse, before you had edited it to include your imperfect opinion--your imperfect representation of the Word.
I hear you loud and clear.
You want to be reached. You want to be heard and understood. And you want to be told you're alright.
But you're not. You're on the road to Hell, and you know it.
You're afraid to die without God, and you're afraid to approach God because of your sin.
But I'm telling you that you MUST approach God through his Son Jesus Christ if you want to be saved from your sin.
I hear you loud and clear.
You want to be reached. You want to be heard and understood. And you want to be told you're alright.
But you're not. You're on the road to Hell, and you know it.
You're afraid to die without God, and you're afraid to approach God because of your sin.
But I'm telling you that you MUST approach God through his Son Jesus Christ if you want to be saved from your sin.
Now hear the words of the Lord Jesus Christ, and be saved:
John 5:24
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life."
I'm working on fixing my end, and I'm asking you to do the same.Honesty and forthrightness are also prerequisites for a conversation.
I am open and transparent about everything I believe. But you are consistently ambiguous and even purposefully deceptive at times.
Therefore, conversation with you is impossible.
Actually, I would rather hear Spurgeon's own thoughts on the matter. I have a Bible, a few in fact, which I have actually read and studied more than many Christians I know. What I don't have on my own is the diversity of interpretations and perspectives that an open discussion of the topic can bring.You were better off when you had simply posted a Bible verse, before you had edited it to include your imperfect opinion--your imperfect representation of the Word.
This thread took a turn toward prosthelytizing. His goal is to point me to the light, rather than to have an open discussion. I'll clarify--in that particular instance, he had responded to me at first with a simple Bible verse, then later edited it to include a condemnation of me. I'm trying to get him to see that absolutely nobody has a truly objective stance.Actually, I would rather hear Spurgeon's own thoughts on the matter. I have a Bible, a few in fact, which I have actually read and studied more than many Christians I know. What I don't have on my own is the diversity of interpretations and perspectives that an open discussion of the topic can bring.
I don't disagree. I wasn't claiming this to be an open and productive discussion, just trying to stave off another onslaught of unaccompanied Bible verses in the perhaps misplaced hopes of finally having one. As someone remarked in a rep, I can read my Bible whenever I want.
Now I'm totally confused. How many times has what happened? Before what thread that was posted long after this one?I'm sorry what?
How many times has that happened? How many times has it happened before the thread that happpened to be posted long after this one? How then could you say this?