OrangeAppled
Sugar Hiccup
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[MENTION=6561]OrangeAppled[/MENTION], [MENTION=20044]chubber[/MENTION] --
How much do you think that's an NF thing and how much a 4 thing? I'm 5w4 and I find I can muster very little energy or enthusiasm for mowing the grass or changing the cat's litter box.
Mundane *numerical* tasks such as bills or recording payments, investments, and the like, I do *to relax*. Or grocery shopping, which takes creativity and optimization.
Any insights from the NF side of the fence?
It is not a matter of enthusiasm, but the manner in which one actually accomplishes things. TJs seem to work in a more linear manner. Between NP and FP tendencies, INFPs will work in bursts of energy and may expend much energy to find shortcuts to reuse (appearing to initially waste time exploring possible shortcuts).
I also do not always see the logic in many tasks. If it takes me just as long to file a paper and thumbs through files when I need it as it does to toss it on top of a pile in a desk drawer, then why bother with buying file folders and labelling them, etc? That is my idea of pragmaticism. Certain kinds of organizing take more energy than they save.
Thing is, [MENTION=6561]OrangeAppled[/MENTION] is romanticising the "play" Ne/Ni which is untrue, it is literally disagreements. That could be stemming from her Fi fantasising it. So I'm just out to stop it, it's selling the untrue Fairytale Disney dream. (INTJ selling doom and gloom again?) I would like to think I'm being realistic. The play between Ne/Ni is fun'ish, but the INFP's Ne is their Auxiliary and it will not be the same as the ENFP's Ne-Dom that can put up with much longer of Ni. Eventually the INTJ will have to use Te and then the INFP will ... well die inside. They will make everything personal and think it is their fault, when the INTJ is merely discussing objectively, which allows to make tough decisions easier.
I have never in any way, shape or form suggested there is "fun play" between NJs and NPs. On the contrary, my post addressed conflicts.
I have never been a proponent of the INFP-INTJ match.
I assure you, there is no fantasy nor romanticizing of INTJs and especially not Ni mentality. I do not find the typical INTJ personality attractive, the description of one is not close to my ideal, and an INTJ has never had a role in any of my fantasies.
It seems a fantasy of yours to be an INFP fantasy.