Kalach
Filthy Apes!
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INTJ
Kalach, I do sound like you, and that is my point, is that INTJs often DO sound like me....just inside out. I've been saying this. A ton. I also acknowledged when talking to Peace Baby that we all want to complain about other people not understanding our world view, whether we value realistic consequences or imagination more.
You always make a ton of sense to me, for some reason I follow you a lot more easily than some people; IN FACT you are one of the few people on this forum capable of teaching me things or making me see things in a totally different way without making me upset about something.
Even my annoyance with your Ni/Si obsession never goes past the dial of annoyance. I'm never gonna flip out on you. It's not gonna happen. It reminds me of how I could listen to and take instruction from my ENTJ friend IRL without being very offended, and actually being amused or calmed by it.
So either you're wrong about ENFPs being able to understand INTJs, or I'm some kind of SFP.
They understand fine. They just don't care. In this, yeah, holla back Fi. Just like you were saying. But I'm adding in a layer of description. I say caring about particular kinds of images is super fine and it's jim dandy. The images carry the day. And the Ni's and Si's of the world look to images that are different in kind and content. I'll go ahead and assert you can see it at work even when you get NTPs saying yes to this question. They still need to mention horrors and how, categorically, once the horror is out of the way blah blah blah. (But when STPs say no, who knows what's afoot.)
What's the meeting point? How do differences in perspective and focus get together and communicate? It's looks a lot like they just batter each other for a while and then some contingent factor takes over, like who has power or authority, or who got tired, or who forgot this or that. It's pretty grim as a vision of communication.
What if we said: in a certain light, massive and systemic failure to communicate can be exciting? I do wonder who would say yes and who would say no.
Take your pick Kalach, but in doing so, you'll have to admit you made a mistake in your math problem somewheres.
That never happens.
Your own type is your business. Type assertions, though, might be fair game.